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Where from here?
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Copyright: Willem Botha (whjb) Gold Star Critiquer/Silver Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 51 W: 26 N: 172] (683)
Genre: Animals
Medium: Color
Date Taken: 2006-07-21
Categories: Mammals
Camera: Olympus E-300, Sigma 55-200mm 1:4-5.6 DC, 55mm UV Filter
Exposure: f/5.6, 1/1600 seconds
More Photo Info: [view]
Photo Version: Original Version
Theme(s): !Loodzwaar, Xit left: 1, 2, 3 ... [view contributor(s)]
Date Submitted: 2007-01-07 7:38
Viewed: 7161
Points: 9
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I would like to add to Loot's post (http://www.treknature.com/gallery/Africa/South_Africa/photo89096.htm) of the roadkill he photographed in the Kruger National Park by submitting this post.

If this site is about learning about nature, then I believe an important lesson should be the following:

If we visit parks we have to always remember that we are the visitors. The animals are the inhabitants and always have the right of way.

People visit parks and do not plan their trips and then end speeding to reach gates on time. Even the regular speed traps in the Kruger National Park does not deter people from speeding.

I took this photo on the main road between Orpen gate and Satara in the Kruger National Park.

I would like to use this forum to ask people to be careful when getting into your cars. You would certainly be careful not to hit pedestrians in your city streets! So always remember:

Our animals are pedestrians too!!!!!

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je suis d accord.
photo vraiment tres dur pour moi.
les gens sont des sauvage, jai honte pour eux.

I am ok for you .
photo really very hard for me.
people are of the, i shame for them.

Well Captured and the type of thought I would encourage on TN, not all nature is good looking and deathe is an integeral part of nature, and while yes the thought for people to drive more carefully because wildlife is every where even in town we see large numbers of Foxs and hedgehogs killed this way. Though on the up-side the scavangers such as Kites , Crows and Jackals etc will make use of it, as will the various insects and their larvae.
I too have some simular images and keep promissing my self to post them, must get round to it.
TFS yours Robert

Hi, Willem.
A little bit different shot. But I think it's very good. Technically good and showing that it has happened on road and carries information to people. Tragic.

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  • loot Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 5524 W: 722 N: 4163] (11276)
  • [2007-01-10 16:21]
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Hi Willem

Thanks for this posting as it is necessary that we deal with the realities of this deadly issue. Unfortunately it is not something that goes down well with seemingly the majority of TN members. After all, technically this is good photo journalism and your intention was obviously not to try and paint this picture in an artistically or aesthetically soothing manner.

However, I rest my case as even the very first critique you received here said "photo really very hard for me" with only a 'good' smiley and not a 'great' smiley attached to it which absolutely underlines what I am saying. Of course anybody is free to link whatever smiley he or she deems fit for a photo, but it just does not compute. So, donít expect too many responses to this posting.

Further to put some more fuel on this fire I would like to refer you to a critique I did on a posting done by Everton De Melo, "Extinct already". Although it has nothing to do with any 'roadkills', it has everything to do with nature conservation and the lack of support for such real important issues on this site. Show me a nice birdie (of which we probably already seen a million postings on TN) or a colourful insect, etc., and you can be assured you'll get the smileys, but show me tragedy, reality, suffering, or the negative results of something which we (humans) are the cause of and you should not expect too much response.

Back to the 'roadkill' tragedy, I refer you to a critique I received from AC van Dyk and I quote:

"Hello Loot
YOu have done it again by taking a practical scene from the park and turn it into a nature conservation coaching lesson. This is such good notes with the supporting photograph and I just can not understand why the people are so reluctant to critique it. At 121 views with only 6 critiques I am wondering if people only want to see nice little birds and fancy insects, but not the true realities of life. I am not judging, but only making an observation. You did well with the photo, nice colours, good focus, clear DOF, and good light.
AC" unquote.

It is really not my intention to continue to rant and rave about this however, I want to refer you to my reply on his critique of my 'roadkill' posting. I know I am on thin ice as far as many of my TN friends and fellow members are concerned, but somebody has to say what needs to be said.

Lastly, I have to say sorry, but I really did not intent to highjack your posting to gain some free advertising. I am merely trying to stress a point and with this it will be the last words I said on the matter.

Friendly regards

PS. I have added some links to this posting of yours in some other replies I've done. Hopefully that migh bring some appreciative critiques, but then again who knows.


In my country we often read a headline that says: "Moose kills driver..."

Each time I read that my neckhairs stand up!

When will WE ever realize that WE are the killers.

It is sheer neglect on our part that gets paid for by the defenseless creatures, big or small.

Just like we have MADD < Mothers Agains Drunk Driving >, we need a HARASS < Humans Against Repeated Roadkill and Slaugter Society! >

Let us show more respect for life! ALL life! And s*l*o*w d*o*w*n! Be that in Parks or outside Parks! We are not alone on this planet. OK enough soapbox.

Excellent topic. Good shot and presentation!

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