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which bird is this?


which bird is this?
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Copyright: Ruby Sarkar (rubyfantacy) Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Note Writer [C: 84 W: 1 N: 417] (2627)
Genre: Animals
Medium: Color
Date Taken: 2012-03-18
Categories: Birds
Camera: Canon PowerShot SX 40 HS
Exposure: f/5.8, 1/125 seconds
More Photo Info: [view]
Photo Version: Original Version, Workshop
Theme(s): Chintamani Kar Bird Sanctuary [view contributor(s)]
Date Submitted: 2012-03-19 7:47
Viewed: 2480
Points: 22
[Note Guidelines] Photographer's Note
i found this bird yesterday, on one boundary wall of the Chintamani Kar Bird Sanctuary. yesterday was a successful day for me. i saw two new birds. one this one, and another some Purple-rumped Sunbirds (Leptocoma zeylonica)... now those who have seen a male Purple-rumped Sunbird know very well how gorgeous he is! just brilliant! amazing...

well, lets talk about this bird. when i saw this bird, i was totally amazed. i had never seen such a black bird with those flickering yellow eyes! and that orange bill was adding beauty to it. at first, i thought it was a Bank Myna (Acridotheres ginginianus) and like that only i had taken the shots. not that i had no doubt about it... it was too beautiful to be a Bank Myna.

later, after seeing the snaps minutely i realized, it was not Bank Myna [they looked different, i had seen them before], it could be Javan Myna (Acridotheres javanicus). but, Javan Myna and here???! :-O

Wikipedia says:
"It is a successful species in much of South East Asia and has penetrated into India and neighbouring regions."

knowing it i was SO excited! i had seen a guest bird or simple a fresher!? :)

but then, the orange bill and that mustache??

today, after some more search, i got to know about another similar looking bird: Jungle Myna (Acridotheres fuscus).

it could be White-vented Myna (Acridotheres grandis) even... but the same problem: orange bill.

now my question is, which bird ultimately is this? male or female?

whatever be its ID, it was a nice experience to watch this gorgeous.


PS: for another mood of this bird, check the workshop :)

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Hello Rubi
I really don't know what is but is very beautiful and You captured it very well.Lovely composition and cute pose,wonderful colors and great sharpness.
Have a good week and thank You,
Kind regards
J.Diogo

ps:and Yes,if yhe pose is cute, on the WS is very cute!!!

It does look like a Javan Myna, Ruby.
Maybe an expert will confirm that.
The picture is really marvellous. The frontal POV shows this bird in an adorable posture.
Well done and TFS!
Ram

Hi,
Very cute bird, I am sure this is Jungle Myna (A.fuscus), check out, curiously looking bird, have you got only one image? any other with different viewpoint..tfs.
nagraj.v

Hello Ruby,
The Java Myna lives in Java, Bali and Sumatra. Difficult to find the right Myna. I got the new version of "Birds of the Indian Subcontinent" of R. Grimmett and C and T Inskipp. There it looks most at a male Jungle Myna, acridotheres fuscus. And they live in your area. But the best expert is Cuckooroller, Steve Pryor, as you know.
The photo and the workshop photo are both fantastic.
Regards,
Peter

Hello Ruby,
Hope you are well. Let me first apologize that I have accidently kept away from some of your most fantastic recent photos.Nothing was deliberate. But as they say," better late than never", so here I am. This is once again quite a marvellous shot. This I hope is a Jungle Mynah (Acridotheres fuscus)....rather I am sure about it.White vented Mynah is tufted as well and is quite similar in appearance to your bird but this one does not have undertail-coverts. And it can be one of these two.....smile. The rest I leave to you.Thanks a lot for sharing a superb shot......take care....warmest regards/Abid

* My page took a lot of time to reload as the server went down so I have cross-posted with nagraj and Peter so I agree with them about the species identification.Thanks.

Hello Ruby,
I wish I could take a photo like this. It would make me proud. And in your note you do not pretend to be in command of all the wisdom on Earth but you acknowledge the external source of your information. Well done. And suddenly we have experts like Peter van Zoest and Syed Abid Hussain coming in here, and what a pleasure. THAT is value added. Well done once again.
Neels

Hi Ruby,
Peter and Hussain are correct. This is an adult Acridotheres fuscus fuscus (Jungle Myna). Co-ranging for the genus are ginginianus (Bank Myna), and tristis (Common Myna), but both are easily eliminated from consideration because both have very reduced frontal crests, and both have sottocular, and especially retro-ocular glabrous zones colored orange. Slightly extralimital here would be Acridotheres albocinctus (Collared Myna), but distinguished by a white semicollar girding the dorsal aspect of the bird between the hind-nape and the mantle, and also by the lack of the bluish mandibular base visible in this bird.

There are two races of fuscus in India. This is the nominate fuscus fuscus - yellow irides! The more western peninsular race is mahrattensis, and it had irides that are pale-bluish or grey.

Very nice shot of this bird.

P.S. Trust me, this is not javanicus.

hello Ruby
this is very good!
Nice picture with great details and beautiful colours
thanks greeting lou

Ciao Ruby, lovely bird in nice standing pose on a beautiful lightoing BG, wonderful natural colors, splendid sharpness and fine details, very well done, my friend, ciao Silvio

Impressive photo of an impressive bird Ruby! Good composition, nice pose, wonderful colours and very good sharpness.
Regards,
Christodoulos

Bonjour Ruby,
Agréable valorisation du sujet dans son environnement.
A bientôt sur TN pour de nouvelles aventures.
Gérard

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