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Red-veined Darter

Red-veined Darter
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Copyright: Ram Thakur (ramthakur) Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 4316 W: 231 N: 14052] (56953)
Genre: Animals
Medium: Color
Date Taken: 2007-08-18
Categories: Insects
Camera: Nikon D200, Sigma EX 105mm F2.8 DG Macro, 58mm UV
Exposure: f/7.1, 1/320 seconds
Photo Version: Original Version
Theme(s): Superb Macros [view contributor(s)]
Date Submitted: 2008-01-28 0:10
Viewed: 3831
Points: 26
[Note Guidelines] Photographer's Note

Friends, my pictures have this tendency to evoke controversy on the ID of my subjects :-).
Thanks to Joe Kellard, the issue regarding the correct ID of this dragonfly is now finally settled.
It is a Red-veined Darter and not Yellow-winged Darter as Ulla had suggested earlier.
However, the similarities between the two species are so striking it required Joe's young sharp eyes to reach the exact ID.
Thanks Ulla and thanks Joe for your kind help and your healthy and open spirits in the pursuit of knowldge.
It is mainly on this account that I have come to love and admire the TN Community.

Here is a yet another revision on the identification part of the note taken from Wikipedia:

The Red-veined Darter (Sympetrum fonscolombii) is a dragonfly of the genus Sympetrum. It is a common species in southern Europe and from the 1990s onwards has increasingly been found in northwest Europe, including Britain and Ireland.

The wingtips of this species have small yellow-coloured pterostigma, edged with black, which distinguish it from the Common Darter (Sympetrum striolatum). S. fonscolombii belongs to the family Libellulidae, whose members are strong fliers often perching on exposed reeds from where they dart out to snatch prey. Adult red-veined darters are red (males) or yellow (females), showing beautiful saturated colours. Young animals may be greenish, with black stripes on the thorax and abdomen, while the definitive colours are not fully developed.

I took this picture in the mellow light of the setting sun on a warm August evening in my native hills in Chamba, Himachal Pradesh, India.
Goes to prove that this species is found in Asia too and is not confined to Europe alone.
There was some noise in the BG which I removed using lasso and blur technique on PS CS2.

Thanks for looking and regards to all.

jusninasirun, mariki, loot, jcoowanitwong, eqshannon, matatur, rcrick, Alex99, Phoki has marked this note useful
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To joey: Red-veined Darteruleko 2 01-28 22:33
To loot: Hi Lootramthakur 5 01-28 22:24
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Hello Ram,
Welcome to the club of UnID dragonflies. I have a few which needs ID. You have made a wonderfully clear shot here. Amazing details and beautiful colors. Thanks for sharing this beauty.

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  • uleko Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 3396 W: 172 N: 3310] (10940)
  • [2008-01-28 0:28]

Hello Ram,
Very fine capture of this dragonfly. It could be Sympetrum flaveolum that we have here but which also occurs in northern Asia. I like its pose and you show its colours and patterns very well.
TFS and kind regards, Ulla

Hello Ram,

Beautiful picture of this dragonfly. Very nice composition. Good light and sharpness. Great vivid colours.
Well done,

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  • vral Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Note Writer [C: 65 W: 1 N: 218] (1049)
  • [2008-01-28 1:06]

Hello Ram,

Very nice colors and exposure is great.



Hello Ram,
This darter has wonderful colors combination. The image is sharp and well exposed. Excellent pov and composition. TFS,

It has this Christmas in summer look with the colours...but then it is nice for me to see anything but white snow now...And in the traditional Ram style as well..Very nicely framed. I am pleased you are posting so often now..I have been behind...what's that old US saying.."The faster I go, the behinder I get"....

Hola Ram,
What an excellent capture in sharpness, colors and composition my friend, those wing-tips look like miniature "leds" to me, those huge eyes and that powerful torso are very captivating. Well done indeed!

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  • joey Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 1739 W: 224 N: 6872] (24909)
  • [2008-01-28 8:00]
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I have to disagree with the I.D. I think it is a Red-veined Darter (Sympetrum fonscolombii), probably a juvenile that hasn't fully developed the red pigment in its wings. See here.
A nice colourful photo that has great lighting and even exposure.
Very sharp with great clarity.
Superb DOF as well that isolates the dragonfly from its BG.
Well done Ram,

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  • lousat Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 6595 W: 89 N: 15659] (65489)
  • [2008-01-28 14:28]

Great ! The dragonflies are my prefered insects,thei pic is very nice,thanks for share,Luciano

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  • loot Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 5524 W: 722 N: 4163] (11276)
  • [2008-01-28 16:49]
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Hi Ram

Seems like you have a bit of a problem (some more research needed) relating to the assistance on the ID. One source claiming your dragonfly to be a certain species and another providing a counter claim which suspects it to be a different species. So what's new in this forever difficult task of finding the correct ID of some of these critters we find in nature (chuckle)? Good luck with the search…

The late afternoon sun made this shot rich in colour and you managed to catch some nice details on the insect. The blurring of the BG worked well as it came out quite fine and I can see no remaining noise in that area (on my monitor anyway). The only slight nit I might pick is the size of the posting. Seems a little small to my personal preference, but maybe it is only the old age that is busy getting to my eyes.

Well done and TFS.

Hello Ram,
Really nice capture of this Red-Veined Darter, stunning colours and excellent detail in the wings, nice separation between foreground and background, well framed, all the best Cheers Rick :)

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  • demeve Gold Star Critiquer/Silver Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 586 W: 12 N: 1682] (6165)
  • [2008-01-28 22:59]

Hello Ram,
Came home late tonight, so I'm just marking today
Congratulations for this fine capture my friend


You captured the insect beautifully in a wonderful pose. Well done.
Best wishes,

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  • Alex99 Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 4072 W: 133 N: 7096] (23735)
  • [2008-01-31 11:40]

Hi Ram.
Excellently composed picture of the nice scene and beautiful dragonfly. I like wonderful rich colour pattern, excellent details of the insect and pictorial BG. DOF is selected perfectly. Whole image of the insect is in focus. My best wishes and TFS.

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