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HELP - I don't know who I am?!?

HELP - I don't know who I am?!?
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Copyright: Wishnu Garuda (wishnugaruda) Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 2776 W: 181 N: 4796] (19365)
Genre: Animals
Medium: Color
Date Taken: 2006-09-03
Categories: Insects
Camera: Canon EOS 350D, Tamron SP 90mm 1:2.8 Di - Macro 1/1
Exposure: f/18.0, 1/200 seconds
Details: (Fill) Flash: Yes
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Photo Version: Original Version
Date Submitted: 2006-09-04 12:37
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H E L P !!!
What is that???
I found some of this caterpillars in my garden on the peppermint-plant.
They are black with orange spots and the body looks like velvet.
Very tiny, only about maximum 3 cm.
No hairs on the body, only on the head.

I searched at the internet and also asked someone in a butterfly-forum. He told me that it can't be a caterpillar of a butterfly.
Must be some other insect - perhaps Symphytum Caterpillar?!?

Deos anybody knows what this tiny ones will be in their next life?

Thanks for any commands, hope you like it - even without knowing the ID ;-)

aido, carper, marhowie, fyapici, SkyF, Alex99, Christopher_PL has marked this note useful
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ThreadThread Starter Messages Updated
To meyerd: Danke danke danke!wishnugaruda 1 12-01 10:54
To pat: Dankewishnugaruda 1 10-12 12:21
To cataclysta: Thankswishnugaruda 1 10-02 13:31
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To Alex99: Thankswishnugaruda 1 09-05 16:18
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  • aido Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor [C: 1044 W: 156 N: 1218] (4046)
  • [2006-09-04 12:43]

Hello Sabine,
I have no idea of the ID, I'm not very good with insects. A nice presentation and some great shots, especially the bottom left. They all have great detail, colours etc. but the bottom left one stands out for me, because of the warmer light and colours. Great detail and textures captured too, excellent work.

Hello Sabine, excllent colors, bg, POv DOF perfect details, very crisp. nicle composed and capture photo, TFS Kyle

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  • batu Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 1079 W: 293 N: 4497] (16383)
  • [2006-09-04 13:10]
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Hallo Sabine,
beeindruckende Bilder dieses Wesens. Die Frage, die sich die Larve stellt, kann ich nicht beantworten. Es kamen aufgrund der Zeichnung einige Arten in Betracht, bei näherem Hinsehen konnte ich sie alle wieder ausschließen. Wenn du noch andere Bilder hast, schau bitte mal nach, welche Segmente Bauchbeine tragen (wichtig: die Segmente 4 und 5, sowie das zweit- und dritt-letzte. Danach korrespondieren wir weiter. O.K.?
Beste Grüße, Peter

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  • carper Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 1973 W: 119 N: 2582] (8439)
  • [2006-09-04 13:13]

Fantastic photo Sabine,
good photo's, I think it is a carterpillar of a moth I don't now the identity for sur. You made good pcompositions of it, well done.
gr. jaap

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  • uleko Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 3396 W: 172 N: 3310] (10940)
  • [2006-09-04 13:19]
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What a fabulous collage! I've consulted a British book of caterpillars and it could be the caterpillar of the Clouded Apollo (Parnassius mnemosyne)? A species very rare in Sweden. Very nice shots!
TFS, Ulla

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  • manyee Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 3089 W: 230 N: 6774] (23770)
  • [2006-09-04 13:24]

Those are wonderful macros, Sabine, and you have them artistically into a lovely montage. I like the bright colors and great poses of this amazing caterpillar in all the shots. Also very sharp and well exposed.
TFS. : )

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  • cosmln Gold Star Critiquer/Silver Workshop Editor [C: 201 W: 12 N: 493] (1952)
  • [2006-09-04 13:39]

hi Sabine,

very nice presentation. nice POVs, good detail and colours.
is very similar with parnassius larva but this is not a lepidoptera larva. is a larva of Hymenoptera from Symphyta suborder.
i'm not familiar with that species so i don't know where to go further.
i hope this help you,

Hallo your pictures me very kiss!
Is that a fine focalization and beautiful detail!
Good job!
TFS David

Hi Sabine,
An excellent set of shots. I like the closeup right the best, for it's close detail and POV. All very well done. TFS!
PS - Sorry about the ID ;)

Hello Queen Sabine ;)
I have no idea about the ID of this unusual looking caterpillar.
The details are nice, clear and sharp.
superb colours, lighting and exposure. DOF is spot on and the POV is good.
Well composed.
Thanks for posting, have a great week.

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  • Juyona Gold Star Critiquer/Silver Workshop Editor [C: 2232 W: 10 N: 2971] (16891)
  • [2006-09-04 15:08]

Hola Sabine,
Imágenes muy logradas, soprendente nitidez y excelente flsh... buen trabajo, saludos

Hallo Sabine,
Schöne Bilder. ID ist mir nicht bekannt.
Vieleicht kannst du es an [email protected] fragen. Er hat auch eine Webseit genannt: http://www.schmetterling-raupe.de/
Vieleicht kann Walter Schön dich weiter helfen mit die ID.
Beste Grüße, Harm

Bellissima composizione, straordinaria nitidezza. Complimenti ciao gigicacco

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  • RAP Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 2524 W: 345 N: 2373] (7405)
  • [2006-09-04 17:17]

Impressive composition my friends...

+ composition, POV, DOF, sharpness, focus, color, framing, background, lighting.

= notes.

Cogratulations and regards... Ricardo

Hello Sabine

Wonderful shot,great colours,sharpness,details...very well done...very interesting subject...TFS
Best regards

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  • CTP Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Note Writer [C: 644 W: 6 N: 946] (2726)
  • [2006-09-04 23:13]
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Hallo Sabine,
Excellent Caterpillar collage with excellent photos.
I like your pov,dof,colors,focus,sharpness,frames and bgs.TFS
PS:I wish you The Best Weather in Italy during your Urlaub,Enjoy it:)

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  • TAZ Gold Star Critiquer/Silver Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 2241 W: 47 N: 3167] (10926)
  • [2006-09-05 1:03]

I can't help for this nice caterpillar but I like very much your collage. It is wonderful and interesting. Good idea to show different pose and POV. Great sharpness and colors.
Congratulations Sabine and TFS.

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  • sway Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 305 W: 85 N: 319] (1276)
  • [2006-09-05 3:11]

Great photos!
A nicely put together compilation of shots to show the caterpillar.
Nice macro work

Hello Sabine,
You capture the velvety texture very well!
Interesting montage with different poses, all captured with the great details and fine colours...
Well done as always!
Pablo -

Ich weiss nicht, dass wo du bist aber ich weiss sehr gut, dass Sabine sehr gutes gefangengenommen du hat.
Hallo Sabine, sorry I coldn't help for ID, but I can say that you have done it very very well. Congratulations.
Hezliche Grüsse...

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  • Graal Gold Star Critiquer/Silver Workshop Editor/Silver Note Writer [C: 751 W: 31 N: 20] (5100)
  • [2006-09-05 6:09]

Hi Sabine,
good idea and nice view - 3 in one. Superb colours and sharpness. Nice pattern on the caterpillar. Well done photo.
Gr., Aleksander

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  • SkyF Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 2234 W: 188 N: 1912] (8073)
  • [2006-09-05 8:17]

Hallo Sabine,
keine Ahnung was du da eingefangen hast, aber suess sieht die Raupe aus mit ihren Knopfaugen. DA hast uns wieder eine schoene Auswahl angeboten um diese Raupe genau unter die Lupe nehmen zu koennen, danke.

hi sabine
vous avez encore fait un travail merveilleux,autant derriere l'objectif que devant l'ecran d'ordinateur.mille bravo

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  • Alex99 Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 4072 W: 133 N: 7096] (23735)
  • [2006-09-05 14:30]
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Hi Sabine.
This is fantastic. My poor English doesn't allow me to say all what I want. Light and shadow, sharpness and details, geometric poses of the insects, texture and colours of their "clothes" are outstanding. It cannot be, but I see it by my own eyes. BRAVO and my compliments.

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  • thor68 Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 795 W: 138 N: 1319] (5674)
  • [2006-09-05 16:52]

hi sabine,
leider weiss ich es auch nicht, aber deine collage ist einsame spitze! :-)
3 tolle, scharfe photos mit einmaligen details und tollen farben.
bin mal gespannt, ob jemand helfen konnte.
viele grüße & einen schönen abend, thorsten.

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  • mbasil Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 335 W: 148 N: 745] (3320)
  • [2006-09-05 19:16]

Nice collage, Sabine. They are all excellent shots. Together I thin the viewer gets a richer understanding of the 'pillar, almost like a 3D version.

Hello Sabine,
Encore une superbe photo avec de beaux détails !
Les couleurs sont magnifiques... un effet "velours" : presque envie de les caresser ;-)
Félicitations !
Bonne soirée

Hi Sabine, this one is very nice, beautdy is not only for butterfly. I hope it survive next month and become something new and deautyful.
Nice coloures and notice. TFS

Regarding the identification: it's NOT butterfly/moth caterpilar - it has too many legs ;-D
It's other insect larvae - I'm quite sure.
Anyway: very good picture, great colours and sharpness.


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  • osse Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Note Writer [C: 955 W: 0 N: 89] (7805)
  • [2006-09-10 15:45]

Hi sabine
Great collage shot. Great colours, sharpnes, details, light and POV in all. Also good note and composition.
Well done my friend


It is not a butterfly it is caterpillar of sawfly Order: Hymenoptera Suborder: Symphyta probably but I am not 100% shure(Tenthredo marginella)
Beautifull photo

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  • pat Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Note Writer [C: 87 W: 0 N: 125] (414)
  • [2006-10-11 16:39]
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Hallo Sabine,
Wirklich niedlich, eigentlich viel suesser als Schmetterlingsraupen, mit ihren Kulleraugen (Schmetterlingsraupen haben ja nur kleine Ocellen). Im Herbst sehe ich jetzt oefters diese eigenartige Saegewespen (nur 1 beinfreies Segment zwischen Beinen und Pseudopoden, 2 bei SL). Ja, es ist schwierig treffende Informationen zu diesen Wespen zu erhalten. Koennte Tenthredo marginella sein(cataclysta) wie ich auf Walter Schoens Seite vergleichen konnte.
Und zur Photomontage - einfach perfekt !

PS: sieh auch hier fuer weitere Identifikation: http://aramel.free.fr/INSECTES14-1.shtml

und hier :


Liebe Sabine,
danke für Dein stetes Interesse an meinen Bildern auf TN, und Deinen interessanten Kommentar zur Käferlarve vor ein paar Tagen. Du erwähntest das Myterium mit der schwarzen "Raupe", ich nehme an es war dieses (übrigens wirklich toll gelungene) Bild. Des Rätsels Lösung hatte cataclysta angeboten: Tenthredo marginella (Hymenoptera; Tenthredinidae; Blattwespen). Man sieht auf dem Bild, dass zwischen den Thorakal- und den Abdominalbeinen nur ein Segment beinlos ist, nicht zwei wie bei allen Lepidopteren. Dies und das Einzelauge verraten Tenthrediniden. Genug ID, zurück zur Photographie!

Herzlich grüsst Dich

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