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Strange Pirithous

Strange Pirithous
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Copyright: Maite SRivero (Maite) Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 998 W: 65 N: 1270] (5199)
Genre: Animals
Medium: Color
Date Taken: 2007-08-12
Categories: Insects
Exposure: f/4
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Photo Version: Original Version, Workshop
Date Submitted: 2007-12-21 14:45
Viewed: 4698
Points: 106
[Note Guidelines] Photographer's Note
Cuando tengo algún tiempo libre y puedo entrar en TN normalmente prefiero ver y comentar vuestras fotos antes que poner las mías (sobre todo porque no tengo tiempo para preparar un comentario sobre ellas). Hoy os ruego que me permitais poner una foto aunque luego no tenga tiempo para comentar las vuestras, porque me gustaría desearos una feliz Navidad y tal vez no tenga tiempo los próximos días para hacerlo.
Vale, vale. Ya sé que esta foto es del verano pasado y nada tiene que ver con la Navidad, pero ya sabeis que no ha nevado desde hace mucho tiempo en Madrid y por aquí no creo que pudiera encontrar una escena ni muy natural ni muy navideña que ofreceros. Así que

Una extraña Leptotes pirithous

Tal vez os pregunteis "¿Y qué tiene de extraño?". Realmente parece una L.pirithous muy normal y corriente, pero he visto fotos y más fotos de L.pirithous y todavía no he encontrado ninguna a la que le falte como a ésta el circulito blanco del ala inferior que os indico en el workshop. ¿Acaso es una aberración o se trata de otra especie? En realidad, esto de la clasificación de las especies me parece un poco enigmático pues hay mariposas que por la diferencia de un mínimo detalle se llaman de distinta manera y en cambio otras con diferencias mayores siguen recibiendo el mismo nombre. ¿Será porque aún no han sido suficientemente estudiadas o porque la Naturaleza sigue su curso y sigue cambiando?
Si lo que resulta es que ésta no es L.pirithous, entonces me rindo, no sé cual es.

When I can spare my time and enter TN I usually prefer to see and comment your pictures rather than to post any of mine (mostly because I have no time to prepare a note for them). Today please let me post a picture even if I have then no time to comment yours, for I want to say how much I wish you all a merry Christmas and I fear I will have no much time the next days.
Now, now, I know this picture was taken last august and have nothing to do with Christmas time, but there's no snow at Madrid nor something similar to a beautiful Christmas scene which I can find to shot for you.
So for all those who believe in Christmas

An odd Leptotes pirithous

Maybe you wonder what is strange on it? It really looks like an ordinary L.pirithous, but I have seen pictures and more pictures of L.pirithous and I haven't found yet a specimen that lacks the little white circle in the hind-wing which I show in the workshop. Shall it be an aberration or is this indeed another species? Really, the classification of the species seems to me a bit enigmatic because there are butterflies that by the difference of a minimum detail are called of different way while others with greater differences continue receiving the same name. Will it be because they have not been studied sufficiently yet or because Nature follows its course and continues changing?
If this is not L.pirithous, then I surrender, I don't know which it is, and I hope you do.

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To marcellr: Thank you!Maite 1 12-22 09:45
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Dear Maite,
What a beautiful shot of this little butterfly you present here!!
Lovely colouration with excellent details and interesting POV here.
Very well done, my friend. :-)
Best wishes,
Merry Christmas & Happy New Year!!

What great colors and depth created by a Nikon Coolpix in your hands! You did a fine job even if it was back in the warmer days..very nice picture. Have a nice holiday!

Ciao Maite,
la tua bella foto mostra sicuramente un Leptotes pirithous.
La mancanza delle piccole code è dovuta al fatto che l'esemplare non è più fresco di schiusa e le prime a spezzarsi sono appunto le due code sottili.
In quanto alla mancanza del circoletto bianco, questo rientra nella variabilità che ogni specie presenta all'interno della sua popolazione e che non ci permette di trovare mai due esemplari perfettamente identici, specialmente quando il disegno delle ali è così complesso, come in questo caso.

Buon Natale anche a te, carissima Maite.


hello MAITE
encore une nouvelle aussi jolie que les autres
tres bonne prise de vue, de belles couleurs nettes et d' ecellents détails, bon bg bien flou
bien a toi

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  • dejo Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 344 W: 51 N: 520] (2242)
  • [2007-12-21 15:50]

hello Maite,
great shot, beautiful perspective and very good POV and DOF.
beautiful colors and nicelly blured background
great work

Hola Maite,
Nice to see your wonderful posting of butterfly!
Always expect the best in sharpness, vivid colour and super details on your captured!
a very useful notes to read and understand it!
muchas gracias
wishing you a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year, my friend from Spain!

Bonjour Maite,
Comme c'est magnifique en plein hiver dans toute la neige que l'on a ici cette photo nous réchauffe. SUperbes détails, couleurs extras et Bg qui met le tout en valeur.

Hello Maite,
I have examined your original post and your workshop side by side and I am stunned! Both the shots are identical to the last detail except for that marked white circle you show in the workshop. I am mystified. Did you take these shots one after the other from the same perspective? Looks like an illusion to me!!
I was stuck in a similar situation with my latest butterfly picture I posted yesterday. I was convinced it was a Painted Lady, but Ivan once again pointed out that it was the Indian Red Admiral (he had pointed that out on my earlier post of that butterfly too). When I researched the subject further, I realized that my Indian Red Admiral did not match exactly with what I saw of these two on Wikipedia. I agree with you that there certainly are grey areas that baffle you at times.
Coming to your picture, it is a lovely capture of this beautiful butterfly. The image is well composed and I like the colour of the flowers also.
Wishing you a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year,

hello maite,
beautiful capture of this blue butterfly, the image is sharp with good details, nice pov, well composed shot, the oof bg looks good, nice lighting,
tfs & regards

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  • arfer Gold Star Critiquer [C: 2731 W: 0 N: 0] (0)
  • [2007-12-21 20:47]

Hello Maite

A lovely composition on a beautiful flower.
The butterfly is in excellent focus with very good details
Nicely defined markings.
The POV and DOF are well done.
The butterfly stands out well from the OOF BG.


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  • Adanac Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Note Writer [C: 1273 W: 1 N: 6188] (21378)
  • [2007-12-21 22:27]

Hello Maite,
Your superb camera work gives us this beautifully detailed and colored composition of this lovely butterfly. Thank you for your talent and excellent notes. FELIZ NAVIDAD Maite.

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  • Ric Silver Note Writer [C: 4 W: 0 N: 20] (146)
  • [2007-12-22 0:18]

Felices Fiestas Maite
Bonita toma Maite. Muy buena de foco. El encuadre tambien es bueno. Quizás ganaria si el fondo fuese difuso.

Hello Maite!
It was really good choice - because I really prefer to watch picture - like this your, than to write note to my ;)
Very nice capture of butterfly (these insects are soe colourful and so different in shape and size that they can be watched all the time ;>).
I like sharpness, colours and POV. And also a note! :)
TFS and also I wish you a very nice Christmas!!!
Best greetings from Lodz and best Christmas withes,

Hi Maite,
A beautiful butterfly. Very nicely captured with excellent details and composition. Thankyou for the wishes. Thanks a lot for sharing.
MERRY CHRISTMAS to you and your family.

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  • joey Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 1739 W: 224 N: 6872] (24909)
  • [2007-12-22 1:45]

Hi Maite,
gorgeous photo of this little butterfly.
Very sharp with intricate little details.
Excellent composition and POV.
Great DOF.
Well done and I wish you a Merry Christmas! :)

Hello Maite,
The image is sharp and well exposed. You composed this picture nicely. I have the same problem in ID a butterfly. To my knowledge, sexes and seasons can change the markings on wings. With best wishes. Merry Christmas.

Hello Maite,
Thanks for a very clear portrait of pirithous, with natural colour and perfect focus. I suspect that the difference between this and your regular image of the species is simply due to an individual variation. Many small Lycaenids are subject to the odd change like this, just think of all the variations of the Chalk Hill Blue (L. coridon). Many such variations were given their own names in Victorian times, but nowadays very few people bother to do so. Happy Xmas.

Dear Maite
Very intersting spieces to shoot,
Perfect details,exposure and composition,
Hope see you upload more :o)

Merry Christmas

This is a nice capture Maïté but I wish you could have used a faster shutter speed (?) to freeze this beauty more clearly! Colors, composition and POV are beautiful! Thanks!

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  • Ena Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 324 W: 61 N: 594] (2454)
  • [2007-12-22 9:11]

Hello Maite,
Great shot! Nice composition!Good POV!Nice antural colors!

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  • Mana Gold Star Critiquer/Silver Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 1772 W: 36 N: 5597] (18598)
  • [2007-12-22 9:49]

Hi Maite,
Merry Christmas and a very Happy New Year to you too.
Wonderful shot of this beautiful butterfly with such lovely colours and sharp details. Great natural lighting and exposure with the OOF BG looking fabulous and letting the subjects stand out perfectly. Excellent POV to capture this fine pose and very nicely composed. Kudos.

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  • Alex99 Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 4072 W: 133 N: 7096] (23735)
  • [2007-12-22 10:19]

Hi, dear Maite.
I wish you Happy New Year and many new amazing shots as one this. And Merry Christmas.

Wonderful close-up picture of the beautiful butterfly, fine flower and nice BG. I am impressed with terrific details and sharpness of the butterfly image, great reproduction of the flowers (lights, colours, sharpness), excellent POV and composition of the shot and impressive colourful BG. And/ od course, thanks for kind greetings and wishes.
Yours Alexei.

Hi Maite,

Nice shot. Interesting pose and beautiful picture. DOV is correct also.
Well done

Hello Maite, Wonderfull sharp details around the body and head with a nice flower to contrast. Interesting markings in the wing. Best wishes and rgds Necip.

Hola Maite, splendid butterfly with wonderful colors and great details, excellent sharpness, very well done, have a great week end, ciao Silvio

Hola Maite,
Curiosa observación que además nos la muestras con toda nitidez y detalle en esta elegante composición, también creo que por menos, a veces se crean variedades, aunque hoy con la genética se están cambiando muchas cosas. Que tengas unas felices fiestas en compañia de los tuyos. Un cordial saludo
José Ramón

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  • PaulH Gold Star Critiquer/Silver Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 1137 W: 26 N: 3879] (13882)
  • [2007-12-23 9:34]

Hi Maite,
it's great to have a brief glimpse back to summer! Wonderful warm light and very pretty colours, you DOF is excellent ayou have chosen a great composition.

I wish you and your family a very merry christmas :o)


Hello Maite,
Beautiful shot of this lovely butterfly taken from a fine POV.Excellent sharpness and details. Merry Xmas to you.

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  • SelenE Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 2249 W: 65 N: 4205] (13972)
  • [2007-12-24 15:43]

Hola Maite,
It's a beautiful shot of this butterfly.The patterns on the wings are interesting, I can see some hearts there :o) Well composed with a good POV.
Greetings and Merry Christmas :o)
Un saludo mi amiga,

Hi Maite.
You know I like this shot a lot. The little flowers at bottom are so well in focus, and have a special colour to highlight this butterfly. The antennae is so clear. Excellent photo.
Be safe and have a very Happy Christmas.
See you soon

Tienes razón Maite, a veces es un auténtico rompecabezas lo de la identificación y más si no se ve la cara anterior de las alas como es el caso ya que muchas guias presentan solo esa cara.
Sea como fuere me que con el gran enfoque y profundidad de esta toma. Pocas tomas he visto que plasmaran tan bien y con tan buena luz su aterciopelada textura.
Abrazo desde Lleida y feliz Navidad !!!
J. Ignasi

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  • PeterZ Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 5137 W: 166 N: 13121] (49139)
  • [2007-12-25 1:00]

Hello Maite,
Excellent photo of this butterfly.
Great sharpness, colours and DOF.
Merry Christmas,

hola Maite
nice and detailed shot of this
butterfly...i love the fine shape of wings
and the lovely contrast of BG
very nice work!!!
**have a great time of holidays**


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  • rdfoto Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Note Writer [C: 372 W: 0 N: 719] (3295)
  • [2007-12-25 10:52]

Bonjour Maite
Très belle prise, très bon détails et couleurs.
Bonnes fêtes de fin d'année
Amicalement Robi

Hello Maite,
Very nice. TFS.
- Nirmal

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  • EOSF1 Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 1393 W: 119 N: 5267] (23955)
  • [2007-12-26 6:29]

Hello Maite, great shot of that butterfly, well composed, great oof background and fantastic colors ! Good work my friend ! Thanks,


Hello Maite,
Great shot of this little butterfly. The excellent detail shows the delicate texture of its wings and body. Beautiful image and another very good example of your talent. TFS

Extraña pero muy bien captada, luciendo su "palmito".
Magníficos detalles y original punto de vista en un inusual encuadre.Un saludo y felicitaciones en estas fechas tan entrañables, JL.

Hola Maite,
Logro hacer un pausa en estos ajetreados días para hacer una breve y rápida visita por tu galería.
Hermosa y soleada imagen la que nos presentas, con excelente foco y nitidez en la mariposa.
Y muy bella la composición armada y el contraste de los lilas y verdes del fondo.
Espero que el año nuevo que hoy recibimos te traiga la mayor cantidad posible cosas buenas, y espero poder seguir compartiendo contigo y con todo TN sus extraordinarios trabajos.
Recibe hoy un doble fuerte abrazo, uno por la foto y otro cuando suenen las 12, que estaremos atragantados de uvas, jeje, y disculpa lo apurado...
Con mucho cariño,

Muy buenas Maite,
La verdad es que como tú bien dices, nos hemos perdido un montón de buenas fotos de mucha gente pero el trabajo es lo que tiene... te deseo que tengas un gran 2008 y espero poder pasarme sin falta la semana que viene por tú centro cultural para ver la sala y tener una idea y también establecer una selección de las fotos a exponer.
Un abrazo y que tengas un feliz 2008,

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  • Argus Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 5038 W: 260 N: 15594] (50626)
  • [2007-12-31 7:48]

Hello Maite,
Excellent capture of L. piritous: it can't be any other species.
Nice composition on the flowers of its larval host plant, Lucern. Good sharpness against a contrasting OOF natural BG.
Thanks for sharing this fine shot and for all the kind words you gave on mine, Maite!
I take this opportunity in wishing you a happy and successful 2008.

Bonjour Maite
Encore un superbe papillon qui va agremente mon ecran de veille. Belle couleurs et beaux details et tres beau BG
Je te souhaite beaucoup de bonheur et de joie pour l'année 2008
Merci et au revoir....JP

Dear Maite,
clear and well detailed portrait of that tiny little migrant blue, vibrant with life in the strong sunlight, its dry and hot habitat also really well reported. Thank you! All my best wishes to you for a Happy and Prosperous New Year - with many exciting discoveries!

Beautiful little guy Maite, well composed.
Great detail, exposure, DOF, and color.
There are so many different species/variations of this insect, I gave up a long time ago :)

Hello Maite,
Wonderful details in the insect!
Good point of view makes the most out of the subject, which is captured with sharp fine details, I can count the hairs...
Good light and attractive colours, the insect stands out well with a good feeling of depth!
Pablo -

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  • Juyona Gold Star Critiquer/Silver Workshop Editor [C: 2232 W: 10 N: 2971] (16891)
  • [2008-01-06 5:26]

Hola amiga,
gran macro y sensacional nitidez y pov,
buenos detalles y hermosos colores...
espero que los Reyes magos se porten bien :)
saludos Maite.

Hello Maite,
As alwys you've posted very nice picture. You're also very perpective ;-)
I like also nice violet flower - thanks.


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  • izler Gold Star Critiquer [C: 1387 W: 3 N: 9] (44)
  • [2008-01-10 11:22]

merhaba maite
well close-up working on this beautiful butterfly
i like composition, point of view, blurred background, lighting, colours and details
thanks for sharing

bonjour maité
le nombre de points et commentaires que tu as reçu pour cette photo temoigne bien de sa qualité,je pense qu'il y a rien d'autre a ajouté.si bravo!

Hi Maite,
you captured this butterfly extremly sharp and detailed.
Colors and composition are very beautiful.
TFS Tatjana

Hello Maite. I really envy your collection of gorgeous butterflies. This one is just brilliant perched on that violet flower. Pleasant sharpness against the well muted background. Well done and best regards. Jusni

Dear Maite,
It's really late, so I wish You merry Christmas for 2008 (while I know it's too early...). Great compo with the blurry bg, perfect sharpness on the closer antenna, but a little soft on the wings. Nevertheless a fine photo, with nice colors. I don't know if it's another specie or the one You identified as, but You know I'm better in fungi than in insects. :)
Tfs, regards, László

Ciao Maite,
approfitto di questa tua bella immagine per ricambiare gli auguri di Buon Natale e penso che ogni giorno si possa augurare Buon Natale, come si dice Buon giorno, in fondo il sole "nasce" ogni mattina; la foto di questo Leptotes pirithous è molto bella e può essere che i segni bianchi siano solamente delle forme strane di usura o di danni casuali alle ali o (più difficile) che siano zone limitate con colorazione leucistica.

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