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Copyright: Robert Brown (Robbrown) Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 1184 W: 88 N: 2160] (6106)
Genre: Animals
Medium: Color
Date Taken: 2004-07-24
Categories: Insects
Exposure: f/8, 1/1000 seconds
Details: (Fill) Flash: Yes
Photo Version: Original Version
Theme(s): Hymenoptera: bees, wasps and ants, (sawflies) [view contributor(s)]
Date Submitted: 2004-07-25 6:42
Viewed: 6343
Points: 22
[Note Guidelines] Photographer's Note
Not a perfect picture I know but it shows something Ive never seen before. It is either a common wasp (Vespula vulgaris) or the so called German wasp (Vespula germanica) could be either as both are wid-spread in the UK the difference is in the face marking the german has 3 black dots in the middle of the face, while the common has a black splodge and bar joining the eyes acroos where the antenae come out.
Take on the inside if one of the fine mesh covered shade tunnels I use for growing plants preffering those type of conditions.For the last week or so the inside of one end has been covered in hundreds of various hoverflies , then the other day I noticed we where getting quiet a few wasps in there, and some seemed to be carrying something. closer investigation revieled that they where hunting the hoverflies off the inside surface, they find the target resting on the mesh and lad on their back grabbing them behind the head then flying off with them. The wasps do not directly eat this prey they go back to their paper nests. Hope to have one to post later whenI can find enough protection to get close enough. They then feed the the prey items to their grubs who in return give back a sweet saliva which is the what keeps the adults going. very strange exchange the young nouishing the adults, but it helps to explain why in the autumn when the queen wasp stops laying and so there are no youg grubs to feed the adults , they go for anything sweet like jam and fruit to keep them selves going, and there by getting a litle drunk on the fermenting fruit juice.She is a female worker about 22mm /7/8inch long, taken upside down on the insde of the tunnel roof.I thought that nornal prey was softer items where of a softer nature such as caterpillars and other grubs.they seem to have made a specialisum in hunting these hoverflies.

carper, mogens-j, Callie, Didi, PDP, Jeppe, Esox, Ninfa, zto, hojper, Luc has marked this note useful
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To Callie: missing antenaeRobbrown 1 07-25 14:44
To mogens-j: Neat ImageRobbrown 1 07-25 13:20
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I like your photo Robbert.
Okee it's not a world photo but intresting enough to let us seen, great note as well, good job

Great shot Robert and very detailed so I don't mind if is German or common ;-). Colours and dof are spot on.

Please correct me if I am wrong but it seems like you have started tu use NI.

Nice deatil and note, Robert - where is the other atenna? or however you spell it? It looks bent-down

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  • Didi Silver Star Critiquer [C: 14 W: 9 N: 9] (47)
  • [2004-07-25 17:40]

Une note très intéressante Norbert, il semble que cette guêpe est en difficulté.
Le cadrage et la couleur sont parfaits pour cette image très originale.

A very interesting note Norbert, it seems that this wasp is in difficulty. Framing and the color are perfect for this very original picture.

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  • Jeppe Silver Star Critiquer/Silver Note Writer [C: 36 W: 0 N: 33] (193)
  • [2004-07-27 3:06]

Hi Robert - Theres two names comming up on my computer - Hornet and Whasp.

Great shot, even the body a bit out of focus, I like background as well - nice work and note.

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  • PDP Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor [C: 2821 W: 344 N: 3779] (11769)
  • [2004-07-27 3:56]

A moment well captured. I have seen wasps eating various things, carrion, maggots, insects and such. I once watched several wasps dismantling a very large damsel fly in such an organised fashion. First they chopped off and discarded the legs and wings, then removed the head and abdomen, the thorax was the first thing they took (I guess that has all the muscle). After that they returned taking segments of the abdomen. Interesting and disturbing to watch.

anyway good capture, shame the focus is a little off but there isn't often time for times like these.

I'm fairly sure, that from what I can see of the thorax and abdomen that this is a common wasp.

points later

Interesting picture on an unusal environnement. Quality is not perfect, but the exposure works well

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  • Esox Gold Star Critiquer/Silver Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 239 W: 20 N: 344] (972)
  • [2004-07-27 13:50]

A great shot Robert, You're right, focus isn' spot on, but it doesn't deserve the picture too much.
Good cropping and nice colors.
Very interesting subject, and a great note too, so...
Well done.

Thank you, Robert, for enligthening me on that one. Last week we had a lot of wasps under a pine tree near our summer house, together with a lot of hoverflies. I thought the two just co-existed in the same kind of environment. Now I've learned differently. It often comes back to the food chain, doesn't it?
Thanks for sharing (the other shot of the kill is also great - if not greater).

Great photo nice details good note

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  • Luc Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 1835 W: 301 N: 4287] (14767)
  • [2006-02-13 21:44]

I took a look at your first posts.
This one was good to my eyes of today.
Thank you Robert.

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