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Copyright: Horia Bogdan (horia) Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 2158 W: 224 N: 4749] (16656)
Genre: Animals
Medium: Color
Date Taken: 2007-05-11
Categories: Amphibians
Camera: Canon PowerShot S2 IS, Hoya Close-Up 52mm +1, +2, +4
Exposure: f/3.5, 1/50 seconds
More Photo Info: [view]
Photo Version: Original Version, Workshop
Date Submitted: 2007-05-28 6:25
Viewed: 3771
Points: 88
[Note Guidelines] Photographer's Note
Just as i said i would, i'm posting another herpetofauna photo this time :) I've missed shooting interesting reptiles and amphibians and, even though this is not a spectacular sight, here you have an interesting specimen.

I'm saying "interesting" because of a very good reason: this is NOT a species, this is a hybrid.

Actually, the hybridizing phenomenon is quite widespread when it comes to amphibians. In Romania, no less that 3 distinct hybrids are known among amphibians, besides Rana esculenta (which in fact is also a hybrid between Rana ridibunda and Rana lessonae).

I really don't what to get really scientific here, so i'm only going to say that what you see in the picture here is a specimen with mixed characters between Bombina bombina and Bombina variegata.

The place where i shot this was in a pond from near a forest, situated and an altitude between 160 and 190 m a.s.l. - between the areal of the two regular species.
The conditions were far from ideal. The sun had almost set and the pond was completely shaded. I laid completely down for this POV and managed to get this one sharp shot out of about 5 (due to the distance and the low light).

Hope you'll like it :)

EXIF data :
Camera: Canon S2 IS
Filter: Hoya Close-up +1
Focal Length: 432mm (35mm equiv.)
Shutter Speed: 1/50 sec.
Metering Mode: Centered Weighted Average
Exposure Bias: -0.33
F-Stop: f/3.5
ISO: 100
Flash: No
Support: handheld
TOD: about 7 PM
Weather conditions: setting sun

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  • Argus Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 5038 W: 260 N: 15594] (50626)
  • [2007-05-28 6:39]
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Hello Horia,
Fine capture of this hybrid Bombina. Considering the poor light you did a good job. I like the POV showing the yellow throat.
I tried to capture B. bombina, rare in Sweden and though we found it, we couldn't get a good shot, certainly nothing like as good as this one!
I wonder what this hybrid sounds like and I wonder also if it is sterile?
TFS this one and best wishes,

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  • red45 Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 2636 W: 74 N: 9091] (31094)
  • [2007-05-28 6:41]
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Hello Horia!

Very nice picture of interesting subject. I like low POV and pose of your hybrid :-) Yellow colours made good composition with green duck weed and rest of animal's body. Also - I like 'arch' made by reed.

Note too short and not scientific enough ;-)))
I read very interesting article in Scientific American about hybrids, especially Rana esculenta, I even tried to find title of it but no luck :-) It lays somewhere in my room, so I'll try to find it later.

Very TN post my friend!

Hi Horia,
What a magnificent photo. The way the frog just poped up above the water is superb. Your frog eye POV is really wonderful. I really like how that leave is functioning as a kind of roof above the frog. Great details an colors, and the shallow DOF isolated the frog perfectly.

Hi dear Horia ,
interesting shot with great composition and excellent details.
sharpness is great too.
well captured
Thanks for sharing
best wishes

Hi Horia
These time a submarine in a harbour. Grat shot. I like the POV and very interesting note.
Best wishes

I was wondering what is this from the tumbnail:-)
This is very good picture accompanied by a very good note. i liked the colors and the that arc created by grass.

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  • Alex99 Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 4072 W: 133 N: 7096] (23735)
  • [2007-05-28 7:41]

Hi Horia.
I like this very impressive shot and lowest POV. The pictured scene is amazing especially curved as arch leaf above the animal. This is superb. Colour palette is wonderful and specific. I am impressed with exposure parameters. Refined work.. Sharp spot with frog in the center is looked greatly. Bravo, my dear friend and see you soon.

good compo saves it even with bad light

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  • Mana Gold Star Critiquer/Silver Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 1772 W: 36 N: 5597] (18598)
  • [2007-05-28 8:31]

Hi Horia,
Amazing shot of this species. It seems to have camouflaged well and is waiting for its prey. Lovely soothing colours and neat focus. Sharpness, low POV, DOF and natural lighting are very impressive. Wonderfully done. Very nicely composed. Kudos.

Hi Horia,
a very fine capture of the bombina.
I really like the low POV. Good details specially when you
worked in bad light. Nice colour and well composed.
Well done.

Hi Horia,
Very nice low pov. You did capture beautifully despite the low light condition. The image is sharp and colors are well saturated. Also lovely composition.

Faina poza.
Numai bine,

Hi Horia,

You saw this scene very well and captured perfectly with the amount of light you had to work with. Well done.


Hi Horia
Chique image; wonderful colours and DOF. Especially the latter is very effective isolating the 'old and tired looking' prince
very well. Compositionwise the royal arc is a plus.
TFS the Bombina

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  • dew77 Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 4432 W: 248 N: 4028] (13270)
  • [2007-05-28 9:52]

Hello Horia,
Lovely close up.I liked pose of frog a lot:)POV,lighting,colors,details and visual impact are also excellent.

This guy look as though it were crossing under a bridge in Venice, great angle really paid off laying on the ground to get this perspective. Well done Horia. :)

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  • emmari Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Note Writer [C: 105 W: 0 N: 387] (3105)
  • [2007-05-28 11:12]

Hi Horia,
I like very much this picture of Yellow Bellied Toad, one of my favorite batracian. I like the way your took your image just over the level of the water.

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  • ridvan Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Note Writer [C: 498 W: 0 N: 1136] (5205)
  • [2007-05-28 11:21]

selam horia; amazing close up shot of this hybird, real camouflage and good details presented ,nice BG and POV well captured with nice colours TFS

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  • Juyona Gold Star Critiquer/Silver Workshop Editor [C: 2232 W: 10 N: 2971] (16891)
  • [2007-05-28 16:56]

Hola Horia,
precioso pov, los tonos excelentes,
original ángulo de disparo,
camuflaje magnífico...
saludos TFS.

Just marking the post for now and i'll return tomorrow with a proper critique.
Ciao Silvio

interesant ca hibrizii i-am gasit in numar mult mai mare de cat speciile, nu stiu daca sunt fertili,

postura e draguta, sub acea "umbrela" iar focusul si DOF-ul e impecabil.

numai bine,
PS. nu mai stiu ce poza voiam sa-ti arat... dar sper sa-mi amintesc pana te vad pe mess. Probabil ceva tubercul de Rana verzi.

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  • Adanac Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Note Writer [C: 1273 W: 1 N: 6188] (21378)
  • [2007-05-28 22:57]

Hello Horia,
What a marvelous composition and your point of view that you used is excellent. The details and colors are especially good considering the low light, thanks Horia great work.

I am amazed you were able to see him, well hide in his environment, excellent shot indeed!


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  • SelenE Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 2249 W: 65 N: 4205] (13972)
  • [2007-05-29 5:22]

Hi Horia,
Your low POV and the pose of the model is very good. I liked the composition showing all the details. TFS

WOW! The notes are fascinating!
Well done photo. The condition might not have been perfect but it certainly created an interesting shot.

bonjour horia
elle etait bien dissimulée sous les bouts d'algues mais vous avez eu l'oeil,j'aime la prise au raz de l'eau et le flou qui entoure la grenouille juste pour diriger l'oeil vers elle.

Most of the scientific stuff in the note is all Greek to me, Horia, though as a layman, I try to understand what is being discussed. What I gather is that this is a kind of hybrid frog.
Well, the image is great from the perspective you adopted to get this shot under adverse light conditions. The part of the animal visible over the surface of the pond is very well captured.
TFS and best regards.

Hi Horia,
This one is spectacular. I like very much your POV and green tones filling the image. The frog camuflaged in the water plants is superb.

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  • fiyo Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Note Writer [C: 1053 W: 5 N: 3475] (15161)
  • [2007-05-29 17:39]

Hello Horia,
Great shot, very good POV and pose. Sharpness,details and colors are excellent.
Very well done .TFS..

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  • SkyF Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 2234 W: 188 N: 1912] (8073)
  • [2007-05-29 20:11]

Hi Horia,
this is quite interesting, never knew that there are hybrid amphibians.
The low POV looks excellent it shows this hybrid off very well.
Details sharpness and lighting are wonderful.

  • uleko Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 3396 W: 172 N: 3310] (10940)
  • [2007-05-30 1:33]

Hello Horia,
I've never seen a green-spotted toad before :-)). Joking apart this is a very fine capture of this hybrid. I love the remarkable sound of the B.Bombina but I've only managed to see it once very briefly. You've got sharp focus on the head and the colours are excellent. I do like the composition with the reed leaf bending across like a bridge.
Many thanks and best wishes, Ulla

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  • PaulH Gold Star Critiquer/Silver Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 1137 W: 26 N: 3879] (13882)
  • [2007-05-30 4:49]

Hi Hotia,

wow, you really like getting down amongst it all don't you? This is superb my friend, the DOF is near on perfect and the detail of the pond plants on his back as he emerges is nice too. The splash of yellow on his throat lifts the whole image too. Very well done,


Hola Horia,
Genial la imagen que nos presentas, muy bella la composición, la luz y el color conseguidos. Saludos
José Ramón

Hello Horia,
This is an awesome composition, when this fine fellow pops out of the water!
Good choise of DOF isolates well making the subject stand out...
Well composed, attractive colours!
Pablo -

Hola Horia
Interesanta hibridación la que nos muestras gran documento, mis felicitaciones.
Un saludo

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  • hester Gold Star Critiquer/Silver Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 1515 W: 18 N: 3165] (11638)
  • [2007-05-30 14:23]

Hi Horia

Your knowledge is amazing. Excellent POV and a very interesting note. I learn something new everytime I come on to this site



Hi Horia,
Magnificent capture of this hybrid!
I think I never seen one of this before.
I like so much your low POV used, it's very good the almost same level view and all the small leaves floating all around.
It's very good also the composition made here, love the upper leave that makes like an arch.
Congratulations and thanks for share it.
My best regards,

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  • livios Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 2150 W: 319 N: 4263] (16942)
  • [2007-05-30 20:25]

Horia, this is really very nice.

Great composition dof and pov.

I like the both the blurred foreground and the blurred background.

Excellent exposure.

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  • delic Gold Star Critiquer [C: 440 W: 6 N: 310] (898)
  • [2007-05-31 2:48]

Hello Horia,
Very impressive. Instantly reminded me of a classic image of Frans Lanting from Okavango. But yours is more interesting for it's a hybrid. Color and sharpness look very good despite the poor light condition. I like how the head is coming up. The blurry area at the bottom works well in that the viewer feels like he/she is observing from behind a blind.
Best wishes,

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  • Maite Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 998 W: 65 N: 1270] (5199)
  • [2007-05-31 5:33]

Hello Horia
Maybe the hybridizing phenomenon is a good thing, now they say that amphibians are being so threatened and afflicted by the global warming.
You did a great observation, and that gives idea of your great knowledge on amphibians.
The image is wonderful and funny with that amphibian face popping up. Excellent focus and great DOF.

Hi Horia,
I like the POV here most of all. Very good color and light, nice detail. I think the OOF arched leaf over-head adds a very nice touch too :)

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  • jmp Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 1659 W: 95 N: 2273] (8415)
  • [2007-06-01 17:05]

Hi Horia,
Really creative and beautiful capture and interesting note.
TFS, José m.

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  • arfer Gold Star Critiquer [C: 2731 W: 0 N: 0] (0)
  • [2007-06-01 22:32]
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Hello Horia

Well you have my curiosity peaked,can a hybrid breed with another hybrid?or are they sterile?Eventually do they become a sub species if they can? A very good low POV ,the colouring of the chin and the eyes are very well seen.Nicely composed in the shot with the natural arch over top of it.Thanks for showing us this.


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  • Bufo Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 404 W: 69 N: 951] (4247)
  • [2007-06-02 16:16]
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Hi Horia,
well....this is interesting. I knew that the species interbred. But what would be the distinctive feature to call this one a proper hybrid. There is lot's of 'overlap' in sound, also depending on the situation. Is it the blown up way of calling. According to what I see now I would say it has more features of the B.v. than B.b. And if so that hybrids are fertile is there something as a complex. I tried to find some information on the internet but on this matter there is just little information.
I found some proper B.b. in Poland. Great animals, but way shyer than the B.v. Hard to take a good picture. I'll post one in a couple of days. Just came back...
Regards, JAcob

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  • thor68 Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 795 W: 138 N: 1319] (5674)
  • [2007-06-03 12:09]

wow, horia, amazing post, not only the photo is terrific but the information around it is great, as i have not heard about those hybrids yet.
the low pov and the pose are awesome and the leaf as an arch over it a wonderful addition.
well seen & captured, thor.

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