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New idea :)

New idea :)
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Copyright: Horia Bogdan (horia) Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 2158 W: 224 N: 4749] (16656)
Genre: Landscapes
Medium: Color
Date Taken: 2007-09-05
Categories: Birds, Desert, Mountain
Camera: Canon 400D Digital Rebel XTi, Sigma 17-70mm F2.8-4.5 DC, Hoya 72mm HMC Circ. Polarizer
Exposure: f/4.5, 1/800 seconds
More Photo Info: [view]
Photo Version: Original Version, Workshop
Travelogue: 2007 USA summer
Date Submitted: 2007-10-06 4:00
Viewed: 4028
Points: 60
[Note Guidelines] Photographer's Note
While standing at one of the lookout points at the Grand Canyon, I saw this pretty big bird flying right in front of me. Unfortunately, i didn't have any time to switch to my zoom lens, so i tried a few shots with my regular lens at its "longest" end.

As you can see, the details of the bird are pretty much impossible to see, but looking at the pictures on the computer, i felt like some of them made some interesting mix between landscapes and animal shots...that's why i decided to post one :)

I really want to learn how to use my new equipment right and where i went wrong, so please feel free to be as honest as possible :)

If you want to look at a better picture of this nice bird (but with nt such a nice BG IMHO) please check the Workshop.
Hope you'll like it and have a great weekend everybody.

EXIF data :
Camera: Canon 400D
Lens: Sigma 17-70mm f/2.8-4.5 DC
Filter: Canon UV Haze
Focal Length: 70mm
Shutter Speed: 1/800
Metering Mode: Pattern
Exposure Bias: -0.33
F-Stop: f/4.5
ISO: 100
Flash: No
Support: handheld
TOD: about 6 PM
Weather conditions: mostly clear

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Hi Horia
to be very honnest the bird in this image is more a foreign body than a real highlight. Even more so as the BG is simply stunning. Imho one should forget the bird but you van be very proud about that landscape shot.

belle couleurs pour cette image qui change un peu des insectes, bien vu, merci a toi de partager

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  • PaulH Gold Star Critiquer/Silver Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 1137 W: 26 N: 3879] (13882)
  • [2007-10-06 5:06]

Hi Horia,
ah yes, i see what you mean! i really like what you've done here, i have a few shots myself that i'm not sure are more landscape or animal.
The BG here is jaw droppingly beautiful and the bird does add a nice element of movement against the static mass of all that rock. The workshop gives a good idea of what this bird looks like too, so thanks for including it.
Have a good weekend my friend.

Hi Horia, great idea splendid view of a wonderful place, great light and colors, very well done, have a nice week end, ciao Silvio

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  • Alex99 Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 4072 W: 133 N: 7096] (23735)
  • [2007-10-06 7:10]

Hi Horia.
Your idea is really so interesting: to find the bird on the image -: ))). I have found it at last (thanks for WS).

Now it is serious. Amazing POV and superb combination of lights and shadows on so wonderful mountain scenery. Great DOF: not too large and not shallow at all. Exposure and colours are perfect too. Cropping is very impressive. Bravo. Well done shot.

Hi Horia,
Fine shot of the Grand Canyon.
Nicely composed /POV and taken at a good time of day.
You have good details though I prefer a bit sharper image of rocky photos. I did a WS to compare.
I think the bird in your image is a Turkey Vulture.
Well done

Hello Horia,
masterpiece of landscape captured!
Perfect exposure and focus on the Canyon!
sharpness, vivid colour and details is spot on!
well done and well seen

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  • cedryk Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 967 W: 50 N: 1722] (5270)
  • [2007-10-06 14:50]

Hello Horia,
Nice to see you're back home and active again :-)
I have a lot of your already posted pictures still to see...
This one is just gorgeous. I like a lot the composition with ridge line leading the eye through the shot and also the incredible play of shadows and lights. Perfect job!!!
The bird in the centre is just like a cherry on the cake :-)

And last but not least - congratulation on your new camera! I'm sure you'll make a great use of it!!!
Best greetings,

Hola Horia,
Un excelente paisaje, me encanta ese relieve con el ave como bonus y la toma aerea.

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  • Luis52 Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Note Writer [C: 1175 W: 8 N: 4240] (15809)
  • [2007-10-06 17:53]

Hola Horia. Exelente postal. Muy hermosa y con una gran calidad en todos los aspectos. Esa ave volando por los cañones es de llamar la atencion. Muy bella. Saludos Luis52.

Hi Horia,
It took me a second to find the bird. I was really loving the light in this dramatic landscape. The play of light and shadow is excellent here. Great feeling of depth. The Grand Canyon is one amazing place!

Hello Horia,
A great landscape, and the silhouetted bird adds to the feeling of wilderness!
The play of light is awesome, adding life to the rugged summit!
Pablo -

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  • Argus Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 5038 W: 260 N: 15594] (50626)
  • [2007-10-07 1:03]

Hello Horia,
I don't there is much wrong with this shot as a landscape showing a beautifully lit aspect of the Grand Canyon. Of course, if you wanted the bird to be the main feature then a telephoto would have been the choice.
Your WS shows a Turkey Vulture with unusually light parts of the wings, which may have been due to the light.
I can tell you that I am very pleased with my Canon 400D and I'm sure that with your experience both as a photographer and biologist you will give yours its best performance.
Thanks and best wishes,

Hello, Horia,
It has been long since we interacted last.
Well, this is grand shot of the Grand Canyon, no doubt. The impression is three-dimensional.
The bird, of course, looks like a dark outline against the brown cliff. However, I like this picture basically as a landscape.
Hope you are enjoying your stay in the US.
Thanks and take care.

hello Horia,

superbe paysage qui me donne envie de voyager, belle lumière et couleurs bravo

Hi Horia,
Yes ofcourse this is a beautiful idea. But it is your luck that didn't allowed you enough time to take this with a big lens. I am sure it will look very nice with a little more closeup. Better luck next time. Thanks a lot for sharing this idea.

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  • EOSF1 Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 1393 W: 119 N: 5267] (23955)
  • [2007-10-07 11:02]

Hello Horia, pretty landscape to say the least ! The bird seems to be a young Turkey Vulture. As you tried to focus on the bird I think the background looks slightly out of focus. Great shot my friend !


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  • viv Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Note Writer [C: 292 W: 3 N: 653] (3317)
  • [2007-10-07 11:20]

Hello Horia,
Wonderfull and it is very special with the bird in flight, it is as a puzzle-

Hola Horia,
Una composición paisajista muy bonita y original, quizá el pájaro estaría mejor descentrado para mi gusto, de todas forma es una bella imagen, un cordia saludo
José Ramón

Hi Horia,
Wow, I love the photo very much. What a beautiful scenery!! I'd like to see the Grand Canyon by naked eyes. :-)
I think it's not easy to outstand the bird in this case like your photo and you must be shot many times.
Lovely colours and excellent details, fine POV, well composed and framed.
TFS and Best wishes, my friend,

Hi Horia,
It was so funny, because at first I couldn't find any bird on the image, and thought it was a kind of visual effect like those in which you can make figures with dots and optic art.
I must say that I like so much this landscape, with and excellent POV and the interesting vanishing light at the back.
Grand Canyon is an impressive site and you captured it with excellence.
Well done and thanks for share it.
My best regards,

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  • Jamesp Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Note Writer [C: 1369 W: 9 N: 6334] (18906)
  • [2007-10-08 2:51]

Hi Horia

Sorry for the lateness of this crit - esp as we posted side-by-side. Great view of the canyon with nice light. The bird - possibly a black vulture - is a nice touch.


Hello Horia,
The bird in WS looks a lot like a Turkey Vulture IMHO... This is a very nice picture with excellent POV, exposure and DOF. I like those tones of colors a lot with this deep blue BG. For a reason, this rock formation reminds me of the mountain in the movie “Close Encounter of the third kind” :) Thanks,

hello horia,
this is a really beautiful capture, the natural light has created magic here, the image has a 3d kind of look, well composed shot,
well done,
tfs & regards

Hi Horia,
I think you nailed this photo in every possible way. The back silhoutte of the bird against the magnificent back drop is just awesome. It pefectly shows how the big the bird is and how huge the landscape is. I think that without the bird you had a good landscape photo but with the bird it just adds that bid extra. Love the light and the mood in the photo.

Hi Horia,
Honeslty I hardly saw the bird, looking at the beuatiful landscape...what a great view!!

Hi Horia,

always great images from my teacher ;)
Wonderful light downgrading from the Fg on, excellent colors and catch of the bird

Thanks again for your masterpieces


Dear Horia,
Long time ago I was last time in your gallery... But finally today I find a few moments to write something more that "I'll be back" :)
The title "new idea" is really nice for this new kind of presentation in you gallery. Wide panoramic POV and great, warm colours of sunset (?) made this picture very climatic and beautiful :)
Really I have to say that the bird is not the most important element of this picture as for me, but on the other hand I agree with you that it is a very nice "additional element" in this landscape photo.
Hope to see some other pictures from this fantastic area from you soon :)
Friendly regards from Lodz,

Hi Horia.
Wonderful light and POV. Great colour and sharpness. It took a couple of looks until I saw the bird, and that's when it hits you just how good this is. On it's own without the bird it would be beautiful. With it it's exceptional. Very well done.
Regards, Steve.

Hello Horia,
a very good compo!:-)
I doubt if the bird plays an important role here; hardly a reference to underscore the size of the 'background'. I like the shadow and light play very much.

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