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A Shouting Match

A Shouting Match
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Copyright: Jane Magen (jaycee) Gold Star Critiquer/Silver Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 2454 W: 10 N: 8044] (25460)
Genre: Animals
Medium: Color
Date Taken: 2008-07-09
Categories: Birds
Camera: Canon PowerShot S5 IS, 1.5 Teleconverter
Exposure: f/4, 1/1000 seconds
Photo Version: Original Version
Date Submitted: 2008-07-16 8:13
Viewed: 2671
Favorites: 1 [view]
Points: 50
[Note Guidelines] Photographer's Note
These two were screaming at each other so loudly that I ran outside (camera in hand) to see what was going on. It had just started to rain - you can see the sky is not blue - and it seemed to me that the father was yelling at his offspring for not being home when the rain started. Just my imagination - but it seemed like such an almost human interaction.

The crow belongs to the Family Corvidae which includes jays, crows and ravens. They share forward facing bristles above their nostrils. Generally members of this family are noisy, gregarious birds who successfully steal food from much larger animals.

Crows are among the most intelligent of birds. They are great problem solvers (especially when it comes to getting food). They hide food on the beach and use landmarks to find it again. If those landmarks are moved, the crow is unable to find the food.

Crows are great mimics and can learn a great variety of sounds including talking. Even between each other, they use a wide variety of low calls, often sounding like they are talking to one another, human-style!

Sexes and juveniles look the same, having all black feathers with black beaks, legs and feet. From a distance, they can be told from other similar-looking birds because they tend to walk, not hop and in flight their wings flap constantly, except in a strong wind.

Crows are primarily scavengers, eating whatever they can find off the ground. They will hoard or hide food for times when it is not as plentiful. Common Crows eat insects, fruits, grains, nuts, eggs and nestlings, small rodents, carcasses and garbage. Northwestern Crows tend to spend time on the beach at low tide and also feed on small marine invertebrates, fish, crabs, clams and seabird eggs. Clams and mussels are opened by dropping them from a height onto rocks.

Young crows are fed mostly insects such as grubs, cutworms and other invertebrates such as earthworms. These are high in protein and will help them grow quickly.

Like other birds that feed on rodents and other birds, Crows regurgitate pellets of fur and bones, although their pellets are not as solid or hold together as well as an owls.

When feeding, crows post a guard who watches for predators. Usually it is an older experienced bird that can tell a harmless sound from a threatening one. Several birds takes turns on watch so each bird has a chance to eat.


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  • EOSF1 Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 1393 W: 119 N: 5267] (23955)
  • [2008-07-16 10:32]

Haha Hello Jane! It's probably husband and wife! :-) Well seen and done, thanks!


Hi Jane,

nice story of the Crow offspring, he did'nt wanna go home.
Good composition from the two Crows.
I like the pov.


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  • nglen Gold Star Critiquer/Silver Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 2883 W: 30 N: 9683] (36145)
  • [2008-07-16 12:55]

Hi Jane. Good name for the picture . taken just at the right moment , well seen and captured. as always from you interesting notes.

Hello Jane, perfect shot of this crow family. TFS. Regards,

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  • Jamesp Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Note Writer [C: 1369 W: 9 N: 6334] (18906)
  • [2008-07-16 13:48]

Hi Jane/Neighbour :)

There is something about this shot that reminds me of the Alfred Hitchcock film, 'The Birds'. Great action shot.


Hello Jane a lovely copmosition of these crows. TFS.
Kind regards,

On the road now with slow connection. Just marking up the best ones this time.

  • goldyrs Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 974 W: 51 N: 2913] (11497)
  • [2008-07-16 17:31]

Very tired and sleepy!
Will be back!

It is classic Jane. Does it remind you of days in the "hood"? Just kidding...I can see you eye as you see this shot. I can feel your thinking as you thought it. You have at times, although a bit more rare with you, to pass along a certain feeling...in images..this is what it is all about!

hello Jane

i loved to read the humoristic biginning of your notes,
i am still laughing, what ! no beautiful Arizonian blue sky ?
excellent image Jane of the life of birds in the nature,
excellent timing to run and shoot them in image, TFS



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  • Ken52 Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 636 W: 93 N: 1243] (4195)
  • [2008-07-16 20:10]
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Nice to know you got some rain. Nice moment and good capture of crows in typical behavior with beaks open.I don't hear them much any more and I kinda miss it.

I don't see any EXIF data except aperture of f4.0 and 1/1000s shutter, but I think this is a case where you could get a lighter photo with more details if you had over-exposed a little, maybe a full f-stop. That would have given you a lighter image and possibly a little more detail on the difficult black crows.

That's a fast shutter speed for such dark conditions. The camera probably exposed for the sky which, though dark, was much lighter than the crows.

Don't know what camera you use either, but I will tell you what I do with my Canon Rebel XT. In a case like this I would over-expose the scene by shooting in aperture priority mode with aperture set about f8.0. I then hold down the "av" button with my thumb and turn the dial (which is near the shutter button) to the right or + side. That tells the camera you want more light in the scene and thus slows down the shutter a little.

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  • arfer Gold Star Critiquer [C: 2731 W: 0 N: 0] (0)
  • [2008-07-16 22:13]

Hello Jane

I had some outside the window this morning at about 5 am.This is an appropriate title.
Very good composition and pov.
Great job.


Bellissimo momento di cattura, molto bella la composizione, buona esposizione in condizioni di luce difficili. Grazie e complimenti. Ciao Maurizio

Hi Sister Jane,
What a lovely open-air theater:) Really when I look this scene I thought that there was a familial disputing like your imagination:). Great capture my sister. Many thanks for sharing this. Take care!


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  • zulfu Gold Star Critiquer [C: 685 W: 0 N: 2] (43)
  • [2008-07-17 0:50]

Hello Jane, a lovely and superb shot of this familial theater:). I loved this shot. Regards,

Hi Jane,
A nice capture of these two crows chattering. We have an urban legend here when crows tend to chatter continuously then some guests will come to your house. And I have marked it 85% true. Superb composition and good details. Thanks a lot for sharing.

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  • gannu Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Note Writer [C: 988 W: 4 N: 3277] (14761)
  • [2008-07-17 4:05]

Hello Jane, How beautiful and your story is so good. Nice scenario and you have utilised it to the best. Ganesh

Hi Jane,
Great timing and humerous little note to start.. U have a knack for capturing the best moments of interactions..
Love it..

Jane #2

hello jane,
well thought , this is a fine capture, well seen and well captured,

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  • Argus Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 5038 W: 260 N: 15594] (50626)
  • [2008-07-17 10:22]

Hello Jane,
Nice sharp action shot of two American Crows squabbling with each other. They look good against the grey sky ans nicely placed on the rooftop: looks like you're in for some rain!
TFS this delight,

Hello Jane.. probably you right...Communication are between these two looks like about rain ....I like your pictures..They not only picture, tell us something about life, story or action....Well done sis....
All the best, Leyla

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  • demeve Gold Star Critiquer/Silver Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 586 W: 12 N: 1682] (6165)
  • [2008-07-17 13:43]

Hello Jane,
Very nice capture! These two crows are well presented,
very sharp, and well composed.. Indeed they're very loud
..Well done


Jane, first sorry for not looking in for a while, great shot here excellent composition and interesting moment captured. Best rgds Necip

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  • cako Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Note Writer [C: 485 W: 0 N: 772] (3395)
  • [2008-07-18 5:13]

Hi Jane
very nice composition
well done.

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  • uleko Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 3396 W: 172 N: 3310] (10940)
  • [2008-07-18 9:55]

Hello Jane,
This is a fine and well-timed capture of these two squabbling! I can imagine the noise they made!
TFS and cheers, Ulla

So what's all that shouting about Jane? :)
Not far from silhouette, the squabblers are well seen discussing their differences..I can almost hear their loud annoying chatter from here :)
Well done,

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