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On a Family Errand

On a Family Errand
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Copyright: Manyee Desandies (manyee) Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 3089 W: 230 N: 6774] (23770)
Genre: Animals
Medium: Color
Date Taken: 2008-08-06
Categories: Birds
Camera: Canon Powershot S3 IS
Details: (Fill) Flash: Yes
Photo Version: Original Version
Travelogue: Bali, Indonesia
Theme(s): Eliz strange, exotic or little known species - 2 [view contributor(s)]
Date Submitted: 2008-11-01 18:03
Viewed: 5268
Points: 18
[Note Guidelines] Photographer's Note
While visiting the Bali Bird Park, we observed this dedicated couple making numerous trips back and forth from a mysterious source of dried grass to their nesting site. They were very serious, always marching side by side, and not once did they crack a smile!

Many many thanks to Steve Pryor (cuckooroller) and Nigel Deacon (merlin) for pointing out the misidentification of these exotic birds.
Instead of Victoria Crowned Pigeons (Goura victoria) as previously noted, these are Southern Crowned Pigeons.
These birds were not "labeled" as they were going about quite freely inside a huge aviary. I came home and looked at exotic bird books to find the name. I was not even aware that there were several subspecies to crowned pigeons.
Only on TN, do we have such experts who have the knowledge and the willingness to help us learn so much about the different creatures on our planet. Thanks again, Steve and Nigel. : )

Southern Crowned Pigeon
Goura scheepmakeri sclaterii

The Southern Crowned Pigeon, Goura scheepmakeri, is a large, approximately 75cm long, terrestrial pigeon confined to southern lowland forests of New Guinea. It has a bluish-grey plumage with elaborate blue lacy crests, red iris and very deep maroon breast. Both sexes are similar.
There are two subspecies of the Southern Crowned Pigeon, differentiated by their shoulder and belly colorations. Goura scheepmakeri sclateri of southwest New Guinea with maroon shoulders and blue-grey belly, and the nominate race Goura scheepmakeri scheepmakeri of southeast New Guinea with blue-grey shoulders and maroon below.
This species was first discovered new to science by Otto Finsch who found a live bird received from the dealer C. Scheepmaker in Amsterdam Zoo and named it after him.
Being tame and heavily hunted for its meat and plumes, the Southern Crowned Pigeon is evaluated as Vulnerable on the IUCN Red List of Threatened Species.

This photo was taken at the Bali Bird Park.

My Bali Travelogue


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Hi there! I like the red eyes on these two. One can't help admire the industriousness of birds in the nesting season. I love the hairdos! Thanks for sharing these two beauties. I suspect that you added greatly to your bird photo collection in Bali.

Evelynn : )

Hi Manyee. I have seen this bird before in captivity but do not know the name. Well captured with fine details of the pair. Thanks for sharing and best regards. Jusni

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  • Janice Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 3277 W: 148 N: 6163] (18832)
  • [2008-11-01 23:57]

What gorgeous eyes these beauties have Manyee. How cute seeing them working together like this.
I love their crowns too - what unusual looking pigeons they are, and large as well.
Nicely captured. And it is good to have you back here :)

Hi Manyee,
Just a couple of notes. Not sure of your source as to the relationships of this genus with other extinct, and extant, Pigeon genera. The Pink Pigeon of Mauritius is more closely related to Pigeons of the genus Streptopelia, and not to this genus nor the extinct Family Raphidae (Dodo). Family Raphidae is sometimes thought to be most closely related to Caloenas (i.e. Nicobar Pigeon) of extant Pigeon genera. The relationship of genus Goura with other Pigeons has not yet been well determined. It is not thought to have close relationship with other Pigeon genera.

The ID is, however, incorrect for your bird.

This is not Victoria Crowned-Pigeon.

These two birds are Goura scheepmakeri sclaterii (Southern Crowned-pigeon). This particular race, sclaterii, originates from southern New Guinea from the Mimika River east to the Fly River.

Hello again, Manyee - it's been some time! Steve (Cuckooroller) is correct about the ID - I wonder if they were mis-labelled in the collection (this happens far too often). Nice shot of this exotic pair, and the flash picks out the details nicely - but there is some inevitable "flash burn" of the white wing panels. However, in the circumstances I doubt that this can be avoided.
Best wishes, Nigel.

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  • PeterZ Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 5137 W: 166 N: 13121] (49139)
  • [2008-11-02 6:25]

Hello Manyee,
Very beautiful photo of these Crowned-pigeons. Good sharpness, low POV and colours, specially in the eyes.

Hi Manyee,
please tell me the adress of their hairdresser ;-) Wow, it's lovely!
A wonderful shot, good sharpness and the motive is so lovely.
I'm back again after a long break - and happy to meet you all again.
Bye and greetings
Sabine - wishnugaruda

Wow, I thought I have seen everything. These are very cool. Looks like a classy pigeon. :) Great shot Manyee. :)

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  • EOSF1 Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 1393 W: 119 N: 5267] (23955)
  • [2008-11-14 12:55]

Hello Manyee! Gorgeous birds! Very good capture of this nice pair, fine image and great quality, well done!


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