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Copyright: Sebnem Sozer (dew77) Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 4432 W: 248 N: 4028] (13270)
Genre: Animals
Medium: Color
Date Taken: 2005-07
Categories: Insects
Camera: Canon 20D, Canon Macro EF 100mm F2.8 USM
Photo Version: Original Version
Theme(s): _Fotos adicionadas por 5 ou mais membros II, Butterflies and Moths of TURKIYE (TURKEY) II, Beautiful Moths, Bellas Polillas, Belles Mites..., 5 favs. and up, 100 points or more (Chapter 1) [view contributor(s)]
Date Submitted: 2005-09-19 4:13
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[Note Guidelines] Photographer's Note
Hello! These photos were taken between 7 July and 12 August at my fathers garden.I wanted to show some of my shots together.Here below are informations about humingbird moth and phlox flowers. Hope you’ll like it.Have a nice week.
Phlox douglasii
Scientific classification
Kingdom: Plantae
Division: Magnoliophyta
Class: Magnoliopsida
Order: Solanales
Family: Polemoniaceae
Genus: Phlox
Phlox (pronounced "flocks") is a genus of perennial flower that blooms in early spring. They are native mainly to temperate North America, with a few species in eastern Asia.
Phlox range in color from pale blue to bright red to white. Some species such as Smooth Phlox (Phlox glaberrima) grow to 1.5 m tall, while others, such as Creeping Phlox (Phlox stolonifera), form low mats only a few centimetres in height.
Phlox is best grown in well-drained soil, exposed to partial shade to partial sun. The foliage of Phlox is sometimes eaten by the larvae of some Lepidoptera species including Hummingbird hawk moth. The plant is also popular with rabbits and deer if no other food source is available.

Hummingbird Hawk-moth
Infos from Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.
Hummingbird hawk moth

Scientific classification
Kingdom: Animalia
Phylum: Arthropoda
Class: Insecta
Order: Lepidoptera
Family: Sphingidae
Genus: Macroglossum
Species: stellatarum

Binomial name
Macroglossum stellatarum
The Hummingbird Hawk-moth (Macroglossum stellatarum) is a species of hawk moth with a long proboscis, and is capable of hovering in place, making an audible humming noise. These two features make it look remarkably like a hummingbird when it feeds on flowers. The forewings are brown and the hindwings are orange. The wingspan is 50-58 mm.
Adults may be encountered at any time of the year, especially in the south of the range and two or more broods are produced each year. They fly during the day, especially in bright sunshine. The larva is green with two stripes along the sides and the horn at the rear end typical of sphingids. It usually feeds on bedstraws and madders but has been recorded on other plants including Aster, Centaurea, Petunia, Phlox and various thistles.
The species is distributed throughout the Northern Hemisphere but is resident only in warmer climates. It is strongly migratory and can be found virtually anywhere in the hemisphere in the summer. However it rarely survives the winter in northern latitudes (eg north of the Alps in Europe).
Retrieved from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hummingbird_Hawk-moth


Shooting Mode:Sports
Tv( Shutter Speed ): 1/500-1/1000
Av( Aperture Value ):4.0-2.8
Metering Mode:Evaluative Metering
Exposure Compensation:0
ISO Speed: 400
Lens:100.0 mm
Flash: Off
AF Mode:AI Servo AF
Drive Mode:Continuous shooting

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Great serie, Sebnem.
You show us how beautiful this insect is.
Very good in flight shot, they move very fast so you have to be very quick. I like all of them
Excellent work.

Wow... very good presentation, Sebnem!
Fantastic action shot, beautiful colours, very sharp images.
Well done and thanks for sharing!

Very nice composition
The presentation is excellent, i like it very much
Sharp and DOF are very good
TFS & for the note

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  • Kris Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Note Writer [C: 174 W: 0 N: 129] (1818)
  • [2005-09-19 4:48]

Fantastic funny shot Sebnem . Interesting object and info. Excellent capture with good details.
Yes, I like it! Very well done.

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  • ddg Gold Star Critiquer/Silver Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 867 W: 24 N: 1008] (5507)
  • [2005-09-19 5:02]

Bonjour Sebnem, superbe composition de vos pricipales photos sur ce théme. Toutes mes félicitations Didier.

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  • TAZ Gold Star Critiquer/Silver Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 2241 W: 47 N: 3167] (10926)
  • [2005-09-19 5:27]

Woooooooow ! Outstanding serie ! Excellent quality for these action shots ! It is very interesting to see the different poses. Every pictures are great but I like especialy the main photo and the one (back-left) where we see the small trunk being held. Useful informative note too.
Congratulations Sebnem and thanks for sharing.

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  • Libor Gold Star Critiquer/Silver Note Writer [C: 164 W: 1 N: 25] (1101)
  • [2005-09-19 6:17]

Hi Sebnem
excelent colage :o)
beautiful color and details
comosition is wonderful
Thanks :o)

Well, what can I say? That this image is stunning? the design of the collage is so well made? that the colours are vibrant, all the photos without exception are sharp and the POV is excellent?
I was just left speechless.
Absolutely superb work of art,

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  • Janice Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 3277 W: 148 N: 6163] (18832)
  • [2005-09-19 6:49]

HI Sebnum, so good to see all your photos together. And you display them well, it is a great collage and is very interesting to see the moth in action. Well done, thank you. They are all good photos too.

Great collection of shots Sebnem. You father obviously has a nice garden and your lucky to have that venue to take so shots of this fabulous moth. Enjoyed the series a lot.

Hi Sebnem,
Excellent composition, and I really like their arrangement. Great colors, and sharp details. A very interesting subject that you have shown very well. Your supporting notes are outstanding. Great Work!

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  • Fisher Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 1540 W: 309 N: 2234] (8915)
  • [2005-09-19 10:12]

Hi Sebnem,

Excellent compositions and captures, well done on the presentation. Excellent work.


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  • Graal Gold Star Critiquer/Silver Workshop Editor/Silver Note Writer [C: 751 W: 31 N: 20] (5100)
  • [2005-09-19 12:26]

Hi Sebnem,
very good serie,I like it very much. Unusual insects, good capture. Well done.
Rgs, Aleksander

Hi Sebnem!
I don't have enough time to write a decent comment ;) but the big smiley is, no doubt, well deserved here :)

//Superb presentation, superb shots//

Hi Sebnem,
that's a wonderful collage.
Every photo is so special.
Beatiful colours and DOF, thanks
Sabine - wishnugaruda

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  • faik (11)
  • [2005-09-19 13:41]

Hi Shebnem,
Great shots, thank you sooo much. Ellerine saglik. Faik.

şebnem hanım, diğer fotografların gibi buda mükemmel...bizlerle paylaştığın için teşekkürler.hilmi yıldırım.

Stunning presentation Sebnem,
As always your posts are such a pleasure to view. Each shot in this post is superb. You are very talented Sebnem, I really enjoy viewing your images.
Thanks for posting, have a great week.

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  • lucky Gold Star Critiquer/Silver Note Writer [C: 63 W: 5 N: 14] (84)
  • [2005-09-19 16:26]

Outstanding shots, you catched this moth very well, sharpness and colours are great, composition is very good, all pictures show other information about this moth...
Very well done!

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  • Toni Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Note Writer [C: 403 W: 2 N: 316] (2034)
  • [2005-09-19 17:59]

Lovely colourful series. Well captured. Great details.
Well done.

A great work Sebnem, Thank You!

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  • cedryk Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 967 W: 50 N: 1722] (5270)
  • [2005-09-19 20:01]

A superb and informative collection, Sebnem! Could make a perfect illustration for a moth handbook :-) TFS! Michal

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  • optic Gold Star Critiquer [C: 322 W: 0 N: 0] (0)
  • [2005-09-19 22:00]

Hello Sebnem,
What a nice presentation i like it, all colours are great and light is beautifull. Thanks for the supporting note, i'll try the shooting mode "sports" with my canon 20D & 100 mm f:2.8 for my next macro photo,
Thanks for posting & have a nice day,

Greetings from Canada :-)

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  • nofer Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 1190 W: 366 N: 811] (2307)
  • [2005-09-19 23:34]

Aaaahhhh....!!!! Esperava há muito tempo suas fotos. Quando você as posta é um prazer....!!!
Excelente trabalho... excelentes fotos.... cores, composições, nitidez, contraste.... o que mais posso dizer?

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  • halki Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Note Writer [C: 242 W: 9 N: 105] (471)
  • [2005-09-20 4:11]

Hello Şebnem!
Wonderful captures again.All photos are great.Thanks for posting...

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  • Luc Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 1835 W: 301 N: 4287] (14767)
  • [2005-09-20 4:24]

An excellent work, Şebnem. Pictures and note.
Thank you.

Wonderfull sequence. Lots of details. Good colors and definition. One of the best. Congratulations.

Any of these photos by itself are spectacular, together they are amazing. You have a true talent, thanks for sharing!


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  • twin Gold Star Critiquer/Silver Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 244 W: 17 N: 494] (3259)
  • [2005-09-20 11:29]

Harika bir seri olmuş... inanın seyrine doyum olmuyor...
çok çok başarılı..
tebrikler :)

Stunning macro shots! Colors are wonderful. I like your photomontage. Great work! Thanks for sharing.

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  • livios Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 2150 W: 319 N: 4263] (16942)
  • [2005-09-20 18:33]

Şebnem, how great it is to check another shot by you - in fact shots by you.

A feast all around. Great idea in this great composition.

The images are really stunning.

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  • Eko Gold Star Critiquer/Silver Workshop Editor/Silver Note Writer [C: 187 W: 10 N: 38] (121)
  • [2005-09-21 2:50]

Hi Şebnem!
Wonderful captures and presentation.Very well done!
Thanks for posting.

Hi Sebnem,
These are impressive shots.
I didn't know this butterfly, which seems to have a very long proboscis.
The colors are beautiful, from the orange to the purple.
The sharpness is perfect : I can see clear details in the body of the butterfly, the head, the eyes.
Thank you also for the detailed note.
Bravo !

Hi Sebnem, you have made an excellent collage with great pictures. It´s a super work. I love it. Thanks.

Hi Sebnem

Lovely crisp, clear, sharp shots, every one of them, with good details, colour, light and exposure. Love the presentation. Nice work. Thanks. :-)

Bonsoir Sebnem,
Excellent travail de composition.
Ce papillon fait penser au colibri.
Jolies couleurs et finesse du détail.
Merci du partage

Really love this presentation Sebnem, fantastic colours, intersting subject, never seen these before. Very sharp images and great detail.

Well done.

Demetrio :-)

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  • red45 Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 2636 W: 74 N: 9091] (31094)
  • [2005-09-22 16:47]

Hi Sebnem!

What can I say? Real masterpiece! Superb serie of great pictures - agree with others - should be used in some nature books. Fantastic colours and POVs. All great, but one from bottom left corner is most funny :-)

Hello Şebnem!
Wonderful shots and collage.I liked your presentation a lot.Thanks for sharing.

Sebnem you done a wonderful job with this giving us so my different perspectives on this interesting hummingbird moth. Not being one image Il not point this but just say its an excellent post. Very well done.

hello Sebnem,
beautiful series presentation.
I never knew the Hawk-Moth looked so interesting- amazing in flight close-ups.
Thank you for sharing

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  • PDP Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor [C: 2821 W: 344 N: 3779] (11769)
  • [2005-09-25 12:11]
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Hi Sebnem, a fantastic array of shots. The main one is simply superb but they are all great. They must have taken alot of patience. Very well done.

Lovely collage, Sebnem!! So much detail in each shot. All of them are so nicely composed. Inspite of them being so fast in flight. Excellent work. Congratulations!! I could give you more than 10 points for such fabulous picture :)

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  • CTP Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Note Writer [C: 644 W: 6 N: 946] (2726)
  • [2005-09-26 17:26]
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Awesome work Sebnem.
I tried to capture this moth many times and i shot over 100 but i could not captured one nice shot to post here,they move very quick and it is really hard to capture them.
Sharpness,colors,composition and focus perfect.TFS

Hi Sebnem
A beautiful serie of that interesting buterfly! Your note is
also really useful. All these picture have some beautiful colours
and POV. I really enjoy your other image. Well done. Thx

This is an excellent full colors poster that demonstrate the way of live of Hummingbird Hawk-moth. Very usefull notes. Thanks for sharing.

Hello Sebnem,
a lot of good work.TFS.

A great collection of photos. I can imagine the amount of waiting and patience it took to get all these good photos, and how many wasted ones!

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  • sela Silver Star Critiquer/Silver Note Writer [C: 47 W: 0 N: 39] (738)
  • [2005-09-29 17:51]

What a beautiful presentation. Perfect in all its ways.

wauw Sebnem,
fantastic serie, I have seen this one for a few years ago in La Palma. I was shasing but had no luck at all.
you have clear shot of this insect, fantastic captures, great note, quality work.
gr. Jaap

Excellent sequence shots of that incredible Hummingbird Hawk-Moth. I would love to see one in person.

Paul :)

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  • sAner Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 1455 W: 74 N: 1426] (4750)
  • [2005-10-03 6:04]

Hi Sebnem,

It looks like I only missed one shot while I were absent! :) This is a great series. All pictures are beautiful and the details are sharp. You must be very patient! You never rush to post some picture, you always wait until you have the perfect photo(s) and I admire that! TFS!


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  • Phoki Silver Star Critiquer/Silver Note Writer [C: 48 W: 0 N: 21] (284)
  • [2005-10-07 10:03]

You almost wrote a book:-)))The serie's is great!!

Great composition, not a nit. Beatiful warm colours and very good details.
Very well done.

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  • law Gold Star Critiquer [C: 60 W: 2 N: 7] (87)
  • [2005-10-12 2:32]

Beautiful presentation and nicely composed. I like the colors very much. Excellent shot, Sebnem.

Hi again!
I forgot to write in a previous photo 'nice to meet you' :)))
I like this composition..it`s fantastic.

Very nice composition of combinging the various photos with their various sizes and hues, and each of the individual shots are very good as well.



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  • momos Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 57 W: 55 N: 171] (705)
  • [2005-10-15 12:34]

Πολύ ωραία η σύνθεση που μας παρουσιάζεις Sebnem!!!
Μου αρέσει η οξύτητα των φωτογραφιών σου. (GR)

Hello Sebnem, these photos are well captured, great close-up and your montage is very well done.

Your photos are very colourful. Your title is well chosen too.

Nice little creature they are.

2 more points :)

Tfs, and have a great day! Yan :)

Excellent montage, Sebnem. Very good sharpness. Superb background in all the photos. This moth must love your father's garden and it a good thing because it kept coming back for more fuel and gave you more opportunities to capture them. I tried in vain last summer (in my father's garden too) but it would not drink, kept moving, disappeared and never returned. Those tiny creatures are hard to photograph, even harder than hummingbirds, I think.

An excellent montage, you can see the preperation that went into it, nice work.


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  • radz Gold Star Critiquer/Silver Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 598 W: 11 N: 72] (436)
  • [2005-11-21 3:17]

Wow this is excellent collection of shots.One of the best Humming bird shots i have seen on web.Thanks for sharing.

Wonderful collage you show us here Sebnem. The colours in each picture work great together with the rest. Every picture nice clean and sharp with plenty of details. Could be great on a wall in XL-size;-). - Great note to follow.

Excellent work.Fantastic shot beautiful color and details. Eyal

  • hibou Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Note Writer [C: 217 W: 1 N: 331] (1629)
  • [2005-12-03 19:39]

What a great picture ...
thanks for sharing


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  • AndyB Gold Star Critiquer/Silver Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 1366 W: 32 N: 1351] (3982)
  • [2005-12-09 8:32]

Hi Sebnem,
Fantastic work,great presentation.
Each shot is a winner.
I hope to see one of these insects one day.
Beautiful,well done.


Hi Sebnem
Looking at your portfolio, I see that I have missed some trule magnifiscent shots. I also seem to remember another Macro lens. This new combo, and you skill, produce truely amazing details of this beautiful critter. A stuning collage you have create here, TFS.

Thanks happy 2006 for you too, your pictures are amazing... Do you have Flickr??? if dont check www.flickr.com
Mine is www.flickr.com/photos/andrieux
cya ;o)

Hi Sebnem,

I really like this collage. It is another of your very good pictures. Well done


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  • gelor Gold Star Critiquer/Silver Note Writer [C: 124 W: 3 N: 12] (523)
  • [2006-01-17 6:05]

Une excellente série dans une composition originale très intéressante. Du beau travail ! Merci. Gérard

What a cutie! In flight fueling?

great colection weell done!
Great colours, details, composition, details!

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  • RII Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Note Writer [C: 481 W: 0 N: 895] (2862)
  • [2006-02-02 3:37]

Hi Sebnem.
Excellent presentation,wonderful collage with vivid colors and details.

hi sebnem
j'aime beaucoup cette composition,vraiment un bel ensemble de clichés tous aussi beaux les uns que les autres .

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  • koray (40)
  • [2006-02-05 15:25]

harika yaa. boyle bisey gormedim. kompozisyon muhtesem. renkler eşsiz. netlemede hata yok. ufkum genişledi.

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  • phlr Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 1237 W: 130 N: 882] (2821)
  • [2006-02-12 5:32]

Excellent composition with this moth!
Very good job!
All wonderful photos!
So many good POVs!
Very good detailed photos!
Keep on going and TFS!
Also a common specie in Portugal.

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  • aido Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor [C: 1044 W: 156 N: 1218] (4046)
  • [2006-02-12 12:04]

Hi Sebnem,
These are wonderful shots! First, the images are very detailed, great focus and good use of large aperture. What I really like though is the overall composition and the mix of warm saturated colours.
Really nice!

This looks like a beautiful quilt almost, what a lovely collage. I love how you captured this little guy in his daily routine. Excellent work, photographing and in putting it all together in this presentation.


Je trouve cette composition vraiment originale. On comprend immediatement que celle qui l'a faite possède un coté artistique très développé.

Merci Sebnem

Hi Sebnem,
I forget this one.
Excellent photo series. I´m think is amaizing this moth, looks like a hummingbird!
Very good colours and details.

Sebnem, its all been said here. Your talent and details notes are MIND-Blowing. As always, thanks for visiting my photos..CK

Nice collage Sebnem, you are always kindly with my shots.

Superbe work, Sebnem!!! wonderful, TFS!!!

Bonjour Sebnem,
Excellent travail de composition.
Cet oiseau mouche est vraiment spécial avec son bec qui se courbe.
Jolies couleurs et finesse du détail.
Merci et au revoir

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  • Scott Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Note Writer [C: 225 W: 0 N: 356] (1752)
  • [2006-04-10 5:12]
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Hi Sebnem, Simply wonderful ... I thought it was a humming bird from the thumbnail. Do you shoot RAW images? I have been lately, the colors are wonderful.

As if it is a biology lesson..Thank you very much for sharing such an impressive and didactic picture.

wsome work...well done and created....love it :) love the presentation as well....overall wel done...

Hi Sebnem,
Very weel captured and well observed. So please to see such pictures. TFS

off cümbüşe bakar mısınız :) harika bir düşünce ve her bir kare başlı başına bir belge... Seyrine doyum olmuyor :)

Emeğinize ve paylaşımınıza teşekkürler. Cengiz.

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  • SelenE Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 2249 W: 65 N: 4205] (13972)
  • [2006-05-16 3:41]
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Sunum çok keyifli olmuş. Renkler de nefis, izlemeye doyamadım, daha fazla izlemek için favorilerime alıyorum :o) Teşekkürler.

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  • ys2 (155)
  • [2006-05-28 15:44]

Bu çalışma TN'yi aşmış. Elinize, emeğinize sağlık, Tebrikler..

Hi Sebnem,

Very good presentation, i like it.
Excellent quality.
Well done and congratulations!

TFS :-)

Hello Sebnem
You made excellent series photo,tell us a story.

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  • Adam73 Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Note Writer [C: 208 W: 5 N: 522] (2253)
  • [2006-06-21 11:50]

Been taking pictures for a year???? :::Faints::: What an awesome series!!! Nice series of captures here. Fast learner is and understatement. LOL

Hello Şebnem,
Great collage.Colors,sharpness and composition are perfect,like a coverpage of a lexecon.Excellent work.Thanks for posting.

Hi Sebnem,
Wonderful shots and clever presentation.Everythig is sayed before.Just perfect!
Thanks for posting.

Hi Sebnem

Really good set of photos.
So sharp and so clear.
The detail is excellent and you have made the series into a work of art.
Very well done.



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  • Alex99 Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 4072 W: 133 N: 7096] (23735)
  • [2006-08-10 23:48]

Hi Sebnem.
You have done huge work and have received remarkable result. Each picture from this collection deserves separate attention. Great colours, details, interesting scenes etc all of these deserve the maximum estimation. Bravo.

Hi Sebnem,
Excellent collage!
As usual proficient work... Each and every photograph is top class, and the montage is very well done too...
Educational value!

Muhteşem bir mozaik çalışma.

Your registers are like medicine to the eyes; they are so soothing.
Your notes are HIGHLY EDUCATIVE.
How did you do all this imaging on one Photograph?

Hello Sebnem,
What a great montage! I have never seen those insect in "real life" but I know that they are pretty hard to capture. You present us so many sharp pictures in the same post; I'm amazed. Each of them could be a great solo picture by itself ;) This is a very powerful post. Thanks,

Merhaba Şebnem,
Harika bi kolaj,
Zamanlama,netlik ve detaylar çok başarılı,
Kolaj için hangi programı kullandığını yazarsan sevinirim,

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  • milas Gold Star Critiquer [C: 191 W: 0 N: 10] (173)
  • [2007-01-04 5:04]

selam sebnem hanım;
mükemmel bir çalışma,
tebrikler, önerilerinizi dikkate alacağım, teşekkürler...selamlar

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  • izler Gold Star Critiquer [C: 1387 W: 3 N: 9] (44)
  • [2007-01-07 16:38]

selam sebnem
benim icin en zor cekim yaptigim turlerden birini; farkli acilardan harika bir kolajla bizlere sunmussun. renkler, detaylar ve bilgi notu da super olmus
eline saglik

Πραγματικά κορυφαία!!! Το πάγομα της εικόνας φοβερό καθώς και η οξύτητα σε ένα έντομο που είναι δύσκολο να φωτογραφιθεί.

beautiful mosaic

Bonjour Sebnem
Impressionnante collection de photos du sphinx, quand on connaît la rapidité de son vol ! La netteté de celles ci est parfaite, bravo !

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